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It’s just not acceptable to me for a prez to do it for personal gain.
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Frank L
(57136 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)
Posted at 8:01 pm on Oct 30, 2019
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Replies to: "It’s just not acceptable to me for a prez to do it for personal gain."
If and I acknowledge it’s still a big if, it’s established that Orange engaged in a quid pro quo
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Frank L
- 6:14pm 10/30/19
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Not whataboutism... honest comparison. Obama "I will have more flexibility after the election"...
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IrishMac
- 10:02am 10/31/19
Mac, I honestly never got the fuss over that statement even even I was blasting Barry back then.
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Frank L
- 4:36pm 10/31/19
Ukraine did get its $400 million without investigating Biden or Burisma
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MarkHarman
- 10:30pm 10/30/19
Not really. Released the day after the WB report. Did the general corruption suddenly cease?
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Frank L
- 10:34pm 10/30/19
Or maybe there really was no quid pro quo
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MarkHarman
- 8:01am 10/31/19
Only the delusional believe that. Proving it to a standard for impeachment though is the issue.
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Frank L
- 12:11pm 10/31/19
Sure, but the likelihood of that happening is extremely remote.
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NDavenue
- 8:15pm 10/30/19
Do you honestly believe Trump’s motive was because he cared about corruption in Ukraine?
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conorlarkin
- 9:25pm 10/30/19
I think when it comes to Trump most people see what they want to see.
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NDavenue
- 9:50pm 10/30/19
I believe the dedicated and distinguished career folks who were in the room where it happened.
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conorlarkin
- 10:01pm 10/30/19
Orange’s biggest problem is himself. He just thinks he can do whatever the fook he wants.
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Frank L
- 9:59pm 10/30/19
Agree that’s what I want to see.
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Frank L
- 8:22pm 10/30/19
Yep, I would be fully on board.
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NDavenue
- 8:24pm 10/30/19
Confiteor Deo... no! I will hold my nose rather than accept any of the current Dems
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Curly1918
- 7:16pm 10/30/19
Odd that "It's all about the Courts" is #1 to you, yet the rule of law is not?
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conorlarkin
- 7:51pm 10/30/19
Impeachment is and always has been political, not legal.
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Curly1918
- 7:56pm 10/30/19
Agree, but there is a constitutional duty to draw the line somewhere as the prez isn’t a dictator.
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Frank L
- 8:03pm 10/30/19
At least you are honest about it. If it is directly proven, he should be removed IMHO.
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Frank L
- 7:19pm 10/30/19
How did you feel about the felony of perjury as sufficient to impeach?
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Curly1918
- 7:23pm 10/30/19
Perjury, if it was that, in a civil depo happens almost every day in my office.
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Frank L
- 7:42pm 10/30/19
Your wife asks you if you're undressing the secretaries with your eyes under oath?
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TakethetrainKnute
- 8:16am 10/31/19
Like perjury in your office, international political extortion happens every single day everywhere.
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Curly1918
- 7:53pm 10/30/19
It’s just not acceptable to me for a prez to do it for personal gain.
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Frank L
- 8:01pm 10/30/19
There is no "if." It was a deliberate attempt to extort a political favor.
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conorlarkin
- 6:35pm 10/30/19
I believe the same, but give me the direct evidence of it.
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Frank L
- 6:38pm 10/30/19
Trump's own words on phone transcript and remarks to reporters over the past month.
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conorlarkin
- 6:45pm 10/30/19
I wish I wish I could say I heard those words, but I haven’t.
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Frank L
- 6:48pm 10/30/19
The "if" is not that big at this point
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Chris94
- 6:22pm 10/30/19
I would need clear and convincing evidence of it. I need evidence that Orange directly ordered that
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Frank L
- 6:30pm 10/30/19
Sure.
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iairishcheeks
- 6:19pm 10/30/19