What is the solution? These urban areas have conflicting agendas.

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What is the solution? These urban areas have conflicting agendas.

Author: jakers (13888 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:53 am on Dec 17, 2019

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On one hand, the challenges you mention with Charter Schools. On another hand, leaving all of the kids together in a cluster with disruptive students who create issues related to safety and distracted classroom environments seems to unfairly cost the kids who are willing to do the actual work. Then on yet another hand, you have politicians who claim that these aforementioned "disruptive" students are being unfairly targeted due to racial/social factors and start pressuring (or incentivizing) schools to stop suspending or expelling them.

Replies to: "What is the solution? These urban areas have conflicting agendas."

Biden revoking his support for Charter Schools..... - CT Irish - 9:38pm 12/16/19 (30) [View All]
- Teachers unions say 'jump', Dems say 'how high?' - Nigel Tufnel - 8:32am 12/17/19
  - Pretty much. Same as it ever was. [NT] - LehighND - 10:42am 12/17/19
    - Thanks a lot. Now I have this running through my head. - NedoftheHill - 2:15pm 12/17/19
- Not turning out enough mainstream African-Americans who are articulate and bright and clean? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 5:45am 12/17/19
- Biden will use the Ain't No Jive Tour to appeal to elderly Black folks in South Carolina [NT] - eftg1 - 12:25am 12/17/19
- Good. The charter experiments have largely failed. - Chris94 - 9:52pm 12/16/19
  - Many have. There have also been some good ones. - Frank L - 2:51pm 12/17/19
  - What is the solution? These urban areas have conflicting agendas. - jakers - 11:53am 12/17/19
  - much of New Orleans is a fail. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:40am 12/17/19
  - Why? Because the normal public schools are made worse? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:57pm 12/16/19
    - Many on the right miss why some charter schools are successful. [LINK] - MAS - 10:41pm 12/16/19
      - Correct. [NT] - Frank L - 2:53pm 12/17/19
      - In addition, public schools have become more about employment than education. Charters can avoid - BaronVonZemo - 10:57pm 12/16/19
    - They solve no problems, and create a whole host of new ones. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:23pm 12/16/19
      - Like what? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:33pm 12/16/19
        Like not filling union ranks to invest tax money back in Democratic war chests [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 7:41pm 12/17/19
        
        Not an expert on this, but it seems to me that the parent[s] are the crucial factor in success. - Iggle - 9:13am 12/17/19
        You are essentially correct - Chris94 - 10:24am 12/17/19
        "Parental income and parental education level" are proxies for the real factor: parental interest - NedoftheHill - 12:08pm 12/17/19
        
        Agreed on all counts. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:07am 12/17/19
        
        Well for one, it helps the AA community get better footing. Dems hate that. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:38pm 12/16/19
        False. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:47pm 12/16/19
        Actually, it is quite true in Detroit. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:51pm 12/16/19
        Don't do the same thing Chris is doing, namely, making blanket statements. - MAS - 11:06pm 12/16/19
      - Pure malarkey. - MAS - 10:26pm 12/16/19
        I could go on for a long time and cite stats and research to you guys - Chris94 - 10:48pm 12/16/19
        Why not do so? - LehighND - 10:46am 12/17/19
        
        You sure could. - MAS - 11:03pm 12/16/19
        
        To quote the great DJT, what have they got to lose? Many inner city public schools aren't even safe - BaronVonZemo - 10:54pm 12/16/19
        
        Pure jive turkey [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:37pm 12/16/19