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Jumpin’, you’re so right, racism and brandishing racist rhetoric praising a slave state
Author:
jimbasil
(50000 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 1:48 pm on Jun 11, 2020
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either by words, monuments or symbols comes down to a binary narrative. Right or wrong.
Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Replies to: "Jumpin’, you’re so right, racism and brandishing racist rhetoric praising a slave state"
NASCAR Truck series driver to quit because of new confederate flag rule
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jimbasil
- 1:01pm 6/11/20
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I don't know why they are so upset, NASCAR raises the confederate flag the last lap of every race
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ShowMeIrish
- 3:10pm 6/11/20
There's also a black flag, it means you're out of the race.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:38pm 6/11/20
Jimbasil, NASCAR fan. Do you even know which direction the cars drive?
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BaronVonZemo
- 2:54pm 6/11/20
I only know in which direction the confederate flagged cars race.
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jimbasil
- 3:00pm 6/11/20
Probably gonna spend more time at his day job developing vaccines for covid
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Chris94
- 1:22pm 6/11/20
Or developing instant cold beer in a can.
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jimbasil
- 1:25pm 6/11/20
There are odd people everywhere.
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LehighND
- 1:12pm 6/11/20
You're certainly a testament to that..
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TakethetrainKnute
- 1:41pm 6/11/20
Right. And it's his right to champion the cause that it is not a racist symbol.
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LehighND
- 2:23pm 6/11/20
I know it’s an effort, but you can read the attached if you want more info.
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Frank L
- 3:15pm 6/11/20
Another paywall, dammit.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:32pm 6/11/20
Dodged that bullet.
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LehighND
- 5:19pm 6/11/20
I don’t get that argument. The battle flag was specifically brought back by the segregationists in
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Frank L
- 3:01pm 6/11/20
I assume this was in the article you posted. It's an interesting theory.
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LehighND
- 5:18pm 6/11/20
It’s not theory, it’s fact. The battle flag wasn’t even the national flag of the confederates.
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Frank L
- 5:35pm 6/11/20
Banning symbols and language is counterproductive, IMO.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:37pm 6/11/20
The confederate flag is not being banned as you say it is. It is
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jimbasil
- 3:51pm 6/11/20
You're against banning the confederate flag?!?!
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iairishcheeks
- 3:54pm 6/11/20
Only if you believe in the First Amendment.
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Frank L
- 3:59pm 6/11/20
I wouldn’t ban it either The Nazi flag isn’t banned. I’m simply replying to the hippy’s posts.
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Frank L
- 3:41pm 6/11/20
Someone once told me it was a southern heritage thing and had nothing to do with slavery or racism.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:53pm 6/11/20
Two words: Lynyrd Skynyd.
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NedoftheHill
- 6:09pm 6/11/20
What does the confederate flag mean now and what did it mean then when the band was around?
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jimbasil
- 7:20pm 6/11/20
Probably like you I was at many a Skynyrd concert in the 70’s. They were hardly an oasis of racial
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Frank L
- 7:35pm 6/11/20
That wasn't the point of those concerts. Let's do this scientifically.
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LehighND
- 10:21pm 6/11/20
Where did I say it was the point of the concerts? I’m talking about who went.
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Frank L
- 10:57pm 6/11/20
Well, the crucifix must also be a symbol of white hatred.
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LehighND
- 8:59am 6/12/20
I’m sure you are sufficiently insulated against that.
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Frank L
- 9:51am 6/12/20
Good rock band, bad choice in stage craft. Al Kooper got some of those things wrong but clearly
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jimbasil
- 11:10pm 6/11/20
“They have always been so few and hard to find”. You have got to be kidding? You ever live there?
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Frank L
- 7:19pm 6/11/20
Pure Racism...
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NedoftheHill
- 6:45pm 6/11/20
That’s utter bullshit. If you are against erasing history, then tell it honestly.
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Frank L
- 3:57pm 6/11/20
It pains me to say this, but there is more to Southern Culture than slavery or segregation.
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LehighND
- 5:31pm 6/11/20
That was the predominant view towards the end of the last century.
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NedoftheHill
- 6:23pm 6/11/20
You should be pained because that’s not it’s history.
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Frank L
- 5:38pm 6/11/20
It was sanitized. Now it has been dirtied again by the Left, thus the movement to ban now.
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NedoftheHill
- 6:56pm 6/11/20
Unbelievable!
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jimbasil
- 7:30pm 6/11/20
It was always dirty. You just chose to ignore it.
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Frank L
- 7:08pm 6/11/20
I have asked several people my age. They agree it was just a Southern Pride thing...
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NedoftheHill
- 9:54pm 6/11/20
Well that settles it then.
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Frank L
- 10:56pm 6/11/20
Heh!
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jimbasil
- 11:12pm 6/11/20
A cover for white supremacy? What? Where do you get that kind of stuff?
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jimbasil
- 10:14pm 6/11/20
Bingo.
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Frank L
- 11:01pm 6/11/20
Not disagreeing, but part of freedom of speech allows non-historically accurate perspectives.
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iairishcheeks
- 4:00pm 6/11/20
No question there.
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Frank L
- 4:18pm 6/11/20
Telling history honestly? These days? Good luck with that...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 4:00pm 6/11/20
Seems against his interest, but what he's doing is fine even if it appears to be misguided.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 2:34pm 6/11/20
oh C’mon, that’s the sort of backing which allows this topic to linger
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jimbasil
- 2:57pm 6/11/20
Oh, c'mon. Explaining someone's viewpoint is not backing it. Your faux virtuosity has crossed well
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TakethetrainKnute
- 3:08pm 6/11/20
This is his viewpoint - a 50yr old man.
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jimbasil
- 3:30pm 6/11/20
I didn't say he was virtuous. In fact, I said nothing of the kind.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 3:48pm 6/11/20
I didn’t imply you meant him and you know that.
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jimbasil
- 4:16pm 6/11/20
You quoted him (I presume) following it with "Not sure why this is being “virtuous” in your mind."
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TakethetrainKnute
- 5:02pm 6/11/20
Mmmmmm. There is no leeway in this any longer
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jimbasil
- 1:58pm 6/11/20
Yes my last sentence indicates it connotes slavery which is unacceptable. You're clearly much more
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TakethetrainKnute
- 2:05pm 6/11/20
Didn’t watch it. So you got me there.
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jimbasil
- 2:18pm 6/11/20
Forget the KKK, it's the 'white, liberal Hillary Clinton supporter' we should worry about.
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iairishcheeks
- 2:30pm 6/11/20
Van Jones will be so very happy you’re quoting his inane rhetoric
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jimbasil
- 2:50pm 6/11/20
Racist!
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iairishcheeks
- 2:51pm 6/11/20
You got me.
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jimbasil
- 3:01pm 6/11/20
Uh, yeah. I wasn't defending him. "Didn't watch it" is an unacceptable answer. It existed and was
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TakethetrainKnute
- 2:27pm 6/11/20
I lived in another country when it was popular and on TV
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jimbasil
- 2:36pm 6/11/20
Glad you were sequestered and remain as pure and virtuous as the driven snow...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 2:58pm 6/11/20
Well I wasn’t cloistered, what I did get was a more balanced view of the world
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jimbasil
- 5:55pm 6/11/20
That doesn't fit the binary narrative.
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iairishcheeks
- 1:32pm 6/11/20
Jumpin’, you’re so right, racism and brandishing racist rhetoric praising a slave state
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jimbasil
- 1:48pm 6/11/20
There's racist rhetoric on that flag?
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iairishcheeks
- 1:59pm 6/11/20
And there’s nothing in your post that says literally you’re a complete
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jimbasil
- 2:02pm 6/11/20
See Lehigh's response below.
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iairishcheeks
- 2:25pm 6/11/20
...said nobody ever.
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LehighND
- 2:25pm 6/11/20
One person, once.
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iairishcheeks
- 2:27pm 6/11/20
Brilliant analysis, Bill Barr. Another faux level headed palm tree sway
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jimbasil
- 1:22pm 6/11/20
Why did you post it if you didn't actually want to discuss it?
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LehighND
- 2:24pm 6/11/20
you didn’t discuss it, you Middle of the road, it.
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jimbasil
- 2:43pm 6/11/20
Jim, you are making all sorts of friends today.
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BaronVonZemo
- 11:08pm 6/11/20
I really dig it when you try to be my conscience. Your true brotherly love jumps off the page.
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jimbasil
- 11:59pm 6/11/20
He's a traitor, let's hang him
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holybull101
- 1:03pm 6/11/20
Or maybe, let’s not celebrate him or his moronic cause.
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jimbasil
- 1:37pm 6/11/20