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Good thoughts. I'll get back later.
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NDavenue
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Posted at 12:08 pm on Nov 14, 2020
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I don't believe illusions because too much is for real.
Replies to: "Good thoughts. I'll get back later."
"Socialism" vs. "Capitalism"...a false dichotomy?...
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TyroneIrish
- 9:06pm 11/13/20
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Quick hit thought: Capitalism leverages human nature. Socialism suppresses human nature.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:03pm 11/14/20
That was indeed a "quick hit", Ned...I'm looking forward to your typical considered opinion to
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TyroneIrish
- 7:54pm 11/14/20
Answers.
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NedoftheHill
- 8:37pm 11/14/20
NP, Ned, it's good to hear from you in any form...thanks for the reply.
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TyroneIrish
- 9:48pm 11/14/20
It's pure evil. And the appetizer for communism.
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jakers
- 6:34pm 11/14/20
If I can speak for Ned as well as myself, Jake, the difference between "Capitalism" and "Socialism"
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TyroneIrish
- 8:04pm 11/14/20
I'm not a Free Market Purist. I respect proper regulation.
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jakers
- 11:03pm 11/14/20
That, my friend, will always be a bone of contention.
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TyroneIrish
- 12:04am 11/15/20
Social security...Medicare...the VA...the military. It’s not evil.
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Chris94
- 7:39pm 11/14/20
None of those are Socialism
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jakers
- 7:58pm 11/14/20
Of course they are. I think you are confused.
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Chris94
- 8:33pm 11/14/20
No, I'm not. Medicare protects the elders of society.
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jakers
- 11:06pm 11/14/20
It’s easy to hate socialism when you deny the parts of it you like
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Chris94
- 9:08am 11/15/20
Many of society's ills wane when you increase the minimum standard of living.
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iairishcheeks
- 1:59pm 11/14/20
Well before the pandemic hit 56% of the people were happy with their life.
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THEISMANCARR
- 9:14pm 11/14/20
Agree that there will be more 'digital ink' spent on the UBI topic, due to the increasing pace of
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TyroneIrish
- 7:48pm 11/14/20
Capitalism always supports socialism until the capitalists' money runs out, at the point everyone
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THEISMANCARR
- 9:15pm 11/14/20
"T" (if you don't mind me using that ID)...I couldn't agree more on the central role of Capitalism..
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TyroneIrish
- 10:15pm 11/14/20
I kind of do. I think you need a very light dose of socialism in a generally capitalist society.
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THEISMANCARR
- 12:05am 11/15/20
That's a perfectly reasonable assessment, and from what I'm hearing in the limited data set of
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TyroneIrish
- 1:25am 11/15/20
there are a few humans that want to risk all they have to make more. I don't think that is the
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Hank the Tank
- 2:13pm 11/14/20
Innovators have internal motivation that is only driven by monetary greed to a point.
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iairishcheeks
- 2:20pm 11/14/20
there is no excess and threshold. you make more and more depending on you abilities
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Hank the Tank
- 8:25pm 11/14/20
This is not true, especially at the higher levels of the hierarchy.
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iairishcheeks
- 6:17pm 11/15/20
humans are prone to cheat, to look for and advantage. the upper hand as were,
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Hank the Tank
- 1:16pm 11/14/20
There are important aspects of this discussion that go beyond economics.
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NDavenue
- 10:37am 11/14/20
Thanks for the reply ND...
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TyroneIrish
- 11:50am 11/14/20
Good thoughts. I'll get back later.
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NDavenue
- 12:08pm 11/14/20
Doesn't sound like a false dichotomy to me.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:53am 11/14/20
OK...I'm up...although it's pretty early for me, I wanted to get back to you...
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TyroneIrish
- 10:17am 11/14/20
Taking the night off, Tyrone. However, I will note this now since my wife is momentarily distracted
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NedoftheHill
- 10:38pm 11/13/20
Thanks, Ned...I got distracted myself, and now it's late here on the "Left Coast"...I'll try to get
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TyroneIrish
- 1:43am 11/14/20
Everybody has to draw a line between private and public spheres
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Chris94
- 10:18pm 11/13/20
I am not a libertarian but don't even compare the evils and attitudes of those who preach communism
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THEISMANCARR
- 12:57am 11/14/20
I never said or implied that libertarianism is evil
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Chris94
- 8:43am 11/14/20
You fear mongers were pushing the Hitler thing before the election. Nice to know you've backed off.
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NedoftheHill
- 12:54am 11/14/20
We pay income taxes and in return what do we really get?
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holybull101
- 9:51pm 11/13/20
The author quotes Elizabeth Warren..."I am a capitalist...I believe in markets. What I don't believe
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TyroneIrish
- 10:15pm 11/13/20
I am not buying it because she behaves so differently and lied to advance her own cause. Pocahontas.
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THEISMANCARR
- 12:55am 11/14/20
Slugging down a beer in her kitchen was hilarious. Liar liar, pants on fire.
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ELP
- 3:36pm 11/14/20
I get the reticence "T"...she made a tenuous link for favorable treatment once, but
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TyroneIrish
- 10:42am 11/14/20
With your support of trump, if your claim were true you should be most comfortable with that.
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jimbasil
- 10:41am 11/14/20
I think she is spot on.
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jimbasil
- 10:51pm 11/13/20
Yes! It's actually OCD vs Individuation.
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Curly1918
- 9:15pm 11/13/20
What's your take on the author's admonitions to both Republicans and Democrats?
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TyroneIrish
- 9:39pm 11/13/20
There is no American capitalism.Corporations are global and nation states are minor factors for them
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Curly1918
- 1:49pm 11/14/20
Agree with you, Curly, on the assistance to small businesses...they've taken a beating lately and
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TyroneIrish
- 7:22pm 11/14/20