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In Ukraine, they are always trying to find a party. In America, the Party finds you.
Author:
NedoftheHill
(41176 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)
Posted at 3:23 pm on Nov 15, 2020
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Replies to: "In Ukraine, they are always trying to find a party. In America, the Party finds you."
Board Poll: Orange will, A. Pardon himself, B. Resign so Pence pardons him, or C. Leave without a
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Frank L
- 12:12pm 11/15/20
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Resign from what? He's unemployed
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kgirish
- 9:48am 11/16/20
DOJ 1974 advisory memo suggests a Pence pardon rather than a self-pardon.
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ND521
- 3:40pm 11/15/20
Board poll: will Hunter, Hillary, Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strozk ever see the big house?
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ELP
- 3:14pm 11/15/20
No, but trump and his crime family and cronies might!
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golfkrzy
- 3:33pm 11/15/20
What crimes. Be specific.
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ELP
- 4:09pm 11/15/20
Lying to Congress etal.
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golfkrzy
- 6:10pm 11/15/20
How so? Sounds like Brennan and Clapper did a little fibbing too.
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ELP
- 7:01pm 11/15/20
^^^this^^^
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Frank L
- 3:37pm 11/15/20
A pardon would be an admission that he did something wrong. No chance.
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Chris94
- 12:53pm 11/15/20
You state your opinion as if it is fact. It is not fact. A pardon is not an admission.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:43pm 11/15/20
A pardon "carries the imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it." Burdick v U.S., 236 US 79
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ND521
- 3:09pm 11/15/20
Thank you. That seems to be the one I was thinking of. Not law, just an opinion or "dicta."
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NedoftheHill
- 3:18pm 11/15/20
Uhm, unless dicta, a court opinion especially from SCOTUS is law.
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Frank L
- 3:25pm 11/15/20
Of course. So you agree that not every word uttered in a SCOTUS opinion is binding as law.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:28pm 11/15/20
You change your posts so it’s hard to keep up. You added dicta so with that your post is correct.
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Frank L
- 3:34pm 11/15/20
When I said "opinion" I was speaking to the non-lawyers. Decided I bett add "dicta" for the lawyers.
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NedoftheHill
- 4:23pm 11/15/20
Which explains the 5 edits to clean up the mess of a post you made.
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Frank L
- 6:48pm 11/15/20
So, you criticize me for not being clear, and now you criticize me for clarifying my post. Good job!
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NedoftheHill
- 7:14pm 11/15/20
Uhm no, keep the bunny out of that hat.
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Frank L
- 7:21pm 11/15/20
Ok, let’s get all options on the table since the election isn’t certified yet.
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TampaIrish
- 12:44pm 11/15/20
Pardon for what? It can't simply be a blanket for all possible crimes.
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Curly1918
- 12:42pm 11/15/20
Can be prospective for all federal crimes.
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Frank L
- 2:19pm 11/15/20
If I were Joe Biden I would not tell my DOJ to prosecute my predecessor. As they say in Ukraine...
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Curly1918
- 3:09pm 11/15/20
I doubt he gives any direction one way or another. Depends on who the AG is.
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Frank L
- 3:27pm 11/15/20
In Ukraine, they are always trying to find a party. In America, the Party finds you.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:23pm 11/15/20
You think he has committed crimes? Or just that he reasonably fears prosecution (even if innocent)?
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NedoftheHill
- 2:35pm 11/15/20
1 Probably too many to list and, 2 NYS grand jury will indict, regardless of pardon.
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ND521
- 3:13pm 11/15/20
If too many, then how about just 3?
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NedoftheHill
- 3:20pm 11/15/20
For conversation starters? Tax, bank, wire and mail fraud, but I'll follow the evidence. Will you?
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ND521
- 5:59pm 11/15/20
Sounds good to me. Will you follow the evidence on Biden, too?
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NedoftheHill
- 7:18pm 11/15/20
Care to elaborate or are you just what abouting out of habit?
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ND521
- 7:39pm 11/15/20
Indictment is not a pre-requisite for a pardon.
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ND521
- 12:50pm 11/15/20
True for Federal Crimes... but this does not extend to state crimes.
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Curly1918
- 2:04pm 11/15/20
But, if Trump runs in 2024, I would put money on indictments suddenly being handed down.
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NedoftheHill
- 2:37pm 11/15/20
Please, Trump will not run again. The country is tired of his generation AND
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Curly1918
- 3:15pm 11/15/20
The country may be tired of his generation, but that is irrelevant to whether he runs or not.
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NedoftheHill
- 3:22pm 11/15/20