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It's way more complicated than that.

Author: iairishcheeks (28229 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:46 am on May 4, 2022
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For example, there have been a number of studies that have shown that Roe v Wade is what caused crime rates to drop significantly. (Too lazy to look 'em up at this hour, but it's convincing.)

You're also ignoring concepts like nurturing, bonding and imprinting and such (again too lazy to make this somewhat accurate). The point being, almost no one misses the unknown "child" they chose to abort. Yet some people have funerals for miscarriages and such. Seems like the wanting is important in this dynamic.

I am sure there is more that could go into this discussion, but my point is that just because in most cases people who chose to keep the children they did, most often because they were wanted, doesn't mean that the unwanted children and their unwanting parents would be better off.

I'm not sure about the gestational threshold stuff, like after a certain point it's wrong.

I'm not sure about the ethics of aborting a baby that was a result of incest, rape or is found to have defects.

But I wonder if it's ethical to force an unwanted baby, because it would seem like the potential to damage two lives is worse than one on the surface. The concept that it may be better not to be born than being born into a situation without a loving and nurturing parent is real. There is also the environment this child is brought into. Edge case: would it be ethical for a malnourished, raped and impregnated North Korean prisoner to choose to keep the child (assuming they had a choice)?

These are tough questions, and no easy answers.


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Replies to: "It's way more complicated than that."

  • I’ll say this, no one on this board who went to ND or is a Catholic should support abortion. If - PBHangingChad - 11:12pm 5/3/22 (25) [View All]
    • Even worse, Dems are voting to allow mothers to kill babies in their first 21 days outside the womb. [NT] - Cole - 6:54am 5/4/22
    • And parents on this board. What child would you have wanted aborted? Yes some are not a picnic but - PBHangingChad - 12:05am 5/4/22
      • “Child! I don’t know why I didn’t abort your disrespectful mofo bitch ass when I should have!” - conorlarkin - 5:59am 5/4/22
        • What's the purpose of using the street language of the poor blacks? Do you - ColeyO - 10:35am 5/4/22
      • It's way more complicated than that. - iairishcheeks - 1:46am 5/4/22
        • It's actually not complicated at all. As much as some people would like it to be. [NT] - NDavenue - 11:33am 5/4/22
          • Solid argument, let me ruminate on it for a bit before responding. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:41am 5/4/22
        • My only response would be yes children were born into dreadful situations who - PBHangingChad - 10:10am 5/4/22
          • Of course you know there's a flip-side to that argument. - iairishcheeks - 11:37am 5/4/22
    • I'll say it again, no one on this board is calling for more abortions...you are simply erecting a [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:44pm 5/3/22
      • When will you realize no one reads your posts. Tell us about you and comments. What can’t you get? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 11:47pm 5/3/22
        • Truth [NT] - ColeyO - 10:38am 5/4/22
        • PB, I"m giving you educated and well-informed material specifically to this topic...you know this, - TyroneIrish - 12:33am 5/4/22
          • No Ty I will tell you. Read your writings. And you present your ideas in posts on this board. No one - PBHangingChad - 12:53am 5/4/22
            • Believe me...I get that many "Don't Want to Read" those links...again, it's willful ignorance on - TyroneIrish - 11:01am 5/4/22
              • A post like this is not readable. Get to the point. Say something that sums up this crap you post. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 1:34pm 5/4/22
                • PB, you have no problem posting links that support your contentions/beliefs (e.g. Oil Industry)... - TyroneIrish - 1:04am 5/5/22
    • Save it for your idiot friends. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:25pm 5/3/22
    • Hey cool another thread shoveling the same Opus Dei bullshit [NT] - Chris94 - 11:14pm 5/3/22
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