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Baron -- following up on below thread re gun control proposals ...

Author: conorlarkin (21055 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:43 am on May 28, 2022
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[I could not copy 'n paste from my link because it had too many charts and data that would could not be copied]

In any event, I have always believed that legislation alone, cannot fix a problem. For years, we thought we could punish our way out of the drug problem through draconian mandatory minimum sentences, -- a path that failed miserably. Crime is best prevented via upstream investment and intervention.

Re mass shootings, gun control legislation cannot fix the problem, but it can help mitigate the extent of the problem. What I believe Congress should do:

Minimum age 21 to buy a firearm or ammunition [18-20 year olds make up 4% of population, yet are responsible for 17% of murders]

Anyone under age 21 cannot possess a firearm unless under the supervision of someone 21 years or older.

Universal background checks for anyone buying a firearm or ammunition, including gun show purchases. Add in red flag prohibitions.

Required license to purchase a firearm, which would include a certified gun safety course. We require a license to drive a boat or car, get married, etc. [Massachusetts requires a license to buy a firearm, and enjoys lowest gun mortality rate in the nation]

Create a national federal database for all gun sales

Mandatory 30 days waiting period for 1st time purchaser

Remove civil immunity for firearm manufacturers

Ban ghost guns

Ban AR-15 type weapons, including possession. Government will pay $1500 compensation per weapon surrendered.

At a minimum, ban the ability to modify semi-automatic weapons to fire on automatic.

Outlaw bump stocks

Outlaw high capacity magazines (no more than 7 rounds)


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Replies to: "Baron -- following up on below thread re gun control proposals ..."

  • Baron -- following up on below thread re gun control proposals ... - conorlarkin - 11:43am 5/28/22 (51) [View All]
    • Way too logical. Republicans are inbred moron scum. - NocalIrish - 11:38pm 5/28/22
      • I agree. I love Joe Biden. He got 81 million votes from sensible intelligent people. - ELP - 9:10am 5/29/22
    • Outstanding list...and the Aussies have already shown us how to do it...LET's DO THIS! [NT] - TyroneIrish - 3:08pm 5/28/22
      • Yes, because I want to live in an open air penal colony. [NT] - Cole - 5:28pm 5/28/22
        • If the Aussies can do just fine without Assault Rifles, why can't you...have you no other interests? - TyroneIrish - 6:53pm 5/28/22
    • Connor, for sake of discussion, assume all guns were eliminated in the US, then the tool of choice - jray - 1:31pm 5/28/22
      • We don't have to eliminate all guns...just follow Australia's lead..and it works. [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 3:35pm 5/28/22
        • "[a]cademic estimate, this amounted to about 20 percent of all privately owned guns in Australia." [LINK] - JarHead4ND - 10:45pm 5/28/22
          • Actually, JH, that's somewhat encouraging...just look at the results...only one mass shooting since [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:25am 5/29/22
      • Let’s run the experiment and see [NT] - Chris94 - 3:24pm 5/28/22
      • Do you envision the killer driving his car into a classroom? [NT] - conorlarkin - 1:45pm 5/28/22
        • What about a parade for children? Is that a concern at all? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:54pm 5/28/22
          • Ooops! Let's not talk about that. Doesn't fit - ColeyO - 6:17pm 5/28/22
        • Killers find a way. School machete attacks in UK and China show that. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:42pm 5/28/22
        • They’ll make it go boom and explode 100 kids at once [NT] - holybull101 - 1:49pm 5/28/22
      • Yep, car bombs are going to be fun, have to restrict sales of cars [NT] - holybull101 - 1:42pm 5/28/22
        • Car bombs were a dime a dozen in the 70's in St. Louis though always intended for individual pols & - JarHead4ND - 1:01am 5/29/22
    • Re banning AR type guns... [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 12:58pm 5/28/22
    • You require an ID to buy a gun, drive a car. Why are you discriminating against blacks? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:52pm 5/28/22
      • Let’s apply the Voter ID integrity laws that you seek, to firearm purchases. - conorlarkin - 1:49pm 5/28/22
        • You dodged my question. If ID laws are discriminatory, you must want an ID check too discriminate. - NedoftheHill - 2:41pm 5/28/22
          • Voter ID laws are designed to suppress turnout, and have been proven to be discriminatory. - conorlarkin - 3:26pm 5/28/22
            • The guy who won't answer my question accuses me of deflecting. Nice try. - NedoftheHill - 1:42pm 5/30/22
            • Where have voter ID laws suppressed turnout? [NT] - notredame678 - 3:43pm 5/28/22
              • You mean like "Guess the number of jelly beans in the jar"?...that spirit of democracy in action is [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:05pm 5/28/22
                • So none, thank you. [NT] - notredame678 - 10:25pm 5/28/22
                  • LOL...the only way you get to make that comment is by not reading my link...willful ignorance is - TyroneIrish - 1:29am 5/29/22
                    • The condescending linkman - WoodstockIrish - 6:42am 5/29/22
                      • Here's what Georgia's Voting Law "Tried" to do (see link)...thankfully, a lot of Georgians [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:21pm 5/29/22
                        • As proven in the last election, it did nothing of the sort. [NT] - notredame678 - 1:56pm 5/29/22
                          • Not for lack of trying on the part of the GOP ;-)...but there are other very disturbing laws [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 2:46pm 5/29/22
                            • As usual you do not post facts, just leftist tripe. - notredame678 - 3:00pm 5/29/22
        • Why not? Both are Constitutional rights. [NT] - notredame678 - 2:18pm 5/28/22
      • Ding ding ding, back ground checks are racist [NT] - holybull101 - 12:56pm 5/28/22
        • Notably, urban blacks are buying AR's in large numbers at gun shows. - NedoftheHill - 1:44pm 5/28/22
    • it was hidden but what you really want is to be able to go after gun manufacturers. 18 or 21..why - WestCoastIrishFan - 12:41pm 5/28/22
      • Yes, missed that -absurd bullshit. Points out Left isnt reasonable in its negotiations [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:39am 5/29/22
      • And why age? Why not other demographic factors that directly relate to gun violence? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:45pm 5/28/22
        • because then it’s discriminatory. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 12:54pm 5/28/22
          • And truth be told, Dems don't actually worry about urban black deaths due to crime. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:02pm 5/28/22
    • Just for the record, there is already universal background checks for gun show purchases. - NedoftheHill - 12:26pm 5/28/22
      • Not for unlicensed dealers who frequent gun shows. [NT] - conorlarkin - 12:34pm 5/28/22
        • And not for "unlicensed dealers" who sell by meeting people on line or elsewhere. - NedoftheHill - 12:40pm 5/28/22
    • I would go along with about 70% of those changes - BaronVonZemo - 12:07pm 5/28/22
      • So would a large majority of Americans. But, the gun lobby has "bought" the folks you vote for. [LINK] - conorlarkin - 12:30pm 5/28/22
        • Problem is you need to create a system which cannot be abused. For example... - NedoftheHill - 12:35pm 5/28/22
          • Exactly the problem. The Left DOES plan to abuse the power. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 5:02pm 5/28/22
          • Then work the problem, Debbie Downer. Crafting effective legislation takes skill and foresight. - conorlarkin - 12:40pm 5/28/22
            • It would help if Dems weren't trying to abuse laws. You guys are selective on enforcement of laws. - NedoftheHill - 12:43pm 5/28/22
              • Yep. They can't be trusted. Demons. [NT] - jakers - 1:13pm 5/28/22
    • I think the Democrat’s proposal of aborting them is the solution [NT] - holybull101 - 11:47am 5/28/22
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