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The investment environment remains absolutely terrible.

Author: Iggle (12593 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)
Posted at 11:44 am on Jun 16, 2022
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There are some very significant headwinds:
-Inflation is almost out of control. The one thing we have not seen yet is significant wage pressure. That is what creates an inflationary spiral. I don't think it is a good bet that it won't happen. Train workers in the UK are on strike right now demanding an 11% raise. The same thing likely to happen here.
-The Fed is hiking rates from extremely accommodative levels. More importantly, it is shrinking its balance sheet. The spreads on mortgage securities have blown out as a result. The Fed has been the biggest buyer of that stuff for over a decade.
-Powell basically told us yesterday that nothing that has happened yet is particularly worrisome to him. 20%+ down in the S&P, mortgage rates exploding, etc are not even on his radar. The Fed is going to continue to hike rates aggressively to try to get this situation under control. In the past, the Fed could be counted upon to bail out the stock market. This will not happen with inflation at these levels.
-So far, the decrease in stock prices has made forward P/E ratios look less insane than they did before. This is an illusion. Given the backdrop discussed before, it is only a matter of time before the estimates of future earnings get slashed by Wall Street. When you lower the denominator, it has a huge effect on the ratio.
- Russia and Ukraine are at war, impacting energy and food production.
- China's zero covid policy means that there is always a risk that significant parts pf that country will shut down randomly and inconveniently.


Replies to: "The investment environment remains absolutely terrible."

  • DOW below 30,000! Is this a breakthru? How far down to the bottom? - Curly1918 - 11:06am 6/16/22 (11) [View All]
    • The investment environment remains absolutely terrible. - Iggle - 11:44am 6/16/22
      • On point. The equity market for some of these stocks don’t match their balance sheets or future - PBHangingChad - 11:59am 6/16/22
        • So many businesses have no business potential. They exist only 'cause of cheap money of 0 rate. But - Eli - 12:31pm 6/16/22
    • We are about to pay a terrible price for Profligacy and corrupt mismanagement by the Deep State - lmcdonald - 11:28am 6/16/22
      • I think we would all do well in following your advice. [NT] - Chris94 - 3:18pm 6/16/22
      • Cramer is blaming the unvacc'd and Ukraine. In other words, the Fed/D.C. are never wrong. They are - Cole - 12:30pm 6/16/22
      • The geezers we saved from COVID may wish we hadn't. [NT] [LINK] - Curly1918 - 11:43am 6/16/22
      • Maybe but there are companies that will sustain through this recession. Invest in what you buy. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 11:31am 6/16/22
    • Going to be brutal. Any serious posters here, left or right, if you understand this new paper, [LINK] - Eli - 11:15am 6/16/22
      • The first COVID relief was bad but necessary. The second was abominable. - BaronVonZemo - 3:24pm 6/16/22
      • The pandemic and the war in Europe, gave the president’s, Trump and Biden, orders to congress to - PBHangingChad - 11:23am 6/16/22
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