immediately started relating to her the account of a very unusual occurrence, involving Rob Engel...also in the room... that had just happened in Trump's vehicle (the "SUV") on its return to the White House...
If nothing 'untoward' had happened, why would Ornato do this?...You can bet your bottom dollar that what happened was not materially different from her testimony.
Now back to the fact that Donald Trump desperately wanted to lead the throng headed to the Capitol...regardless of the fact that many had AR-15s, Glocks, etc....for the clear purpose of obstructing the Constitutional transition of power...
That's the story...not whether or not Trump's arm was grabbed