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Think like a Marine. We breach walls with the command of a 1 foot putt.

Author: conorlarkin (21007 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 6:32 pm on Jul 31, 2022
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Nervous pundits warn that for the good of the country, the Justice Department ought not to indict Donald Trump, since prosecuting a former president is the sort of thing “banana republics” do. That’s wrong on two grounds.


First, it is not up to Attorney General Merrick Garland to decide what’s in the country’s long-term democratic interests. The decision whether to “spare the country” the turmoil surrounding a past president’s criminal trial rests with the chief executive, as was the case under President Gerald Ford.


The closest the Justice Department’s prosecutorial guidelines come to that concept is the requirement that a prosecution serve a “substantial federal interest.” But that factor, as properly understood, weighs in favor of prosecution. As the guidelines note:
In determining whether a substantial federal interest exists that requires prosecution, the attorney for the government should consider the nature and seriousness of the offense involved. A number of factors may be relevant to this consideration. One factor that is obviously of primary importance is the actual or potential impact of the offense on the community and on the victim(s). The nature and seriousness of the offense may also include a consideration of national security interests.



Well, there could hardly be a more substantial interest than punishing the leader of an attempt to overthrow a democratic election in order to deter future coups.


Fortunately, Garland made clear in a recent interview with NBC News’s Lester Holt that his department intends to “hold everyone, anyone who was criminally responsible for the events surrounding January 6, for any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to another, accountable.” The attorney general seemed to reject the idea of excluding a prosecution simply because Trump was president.


Second, prosecuting a former political leader is not what will turn the United States into a “banana republic.” Indeed, I have some unfortunate news for the nervous Nellies: Our country is already on its way to becoming a failed democracy. The question is now what we intend to do about it.


How do you know democracy is unraveling? It is when an incumbent does these sorts of things:


• Refuses to acknowledge he lost an election.


• Uses captive media outlets to undermine the sanctity of elections and lie about election “fraud.”


• Ignores mounds of evidence showing the election was legitimate.


• Attempts to use the Justice Department to throw doubt on the legitimacy of an election.


• Pressures state officials to “find” just enough votes to change the result of a key state.


• Pressures state officials to retract voting certificates and create fraudulent documents to override the will of the people.

* Cooks up a scheme to retain power that his own counsel understands would be illegal.


• Pressures his vice president to disregard his oath and help facilitate the coup plot

*. Calls angry people to show up at the nation’s capital just when the legislature is counting electoral votes and promises the gathering will be “wild!”


• Invites an armed, unhinged mob to march on Congress and promises to join them in confronting the elected leaders carrying out their constitutional duties.


• Incites the crowd to hold his vice president responsible for not having the “courage” to overturn an election, even as the violent mob moves in on him.


* Refuses to use law enforcement or national security personnel to put down his supporters’ violent insurrection.



By now, Americans should realize that this was the stuff of tin-pot dictatorships, not mature constitutional democracies. They should understand that the Republican Party, filled with small individuals hiding behind phony claims of privilege to avoid testifying, has become the bullying apparatus that dictators have historically used to amplify their lies and cloak their actions in legitimacy.


If Americans don’t want our presidents to resemble the thugs of South America or Eastern Europe and don’t want violence to become a standard political weapon, they should demand that Garland keep his word.


This is not the call to “lock him up.” This is the call of a citizenry demanding that the Justice Department follow the legal process to hold responsible anyone involved in arguably the worst crime against democracy in our history. Only a “banana republic” would give the guy behind the coup attempt a get-out-of-jail-free card.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

Replies to: "Think like a Marine. We breach walls with the command of a 1 foot putt."

  • Spot Fookin On! [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 5:51pm 7/31/22 (35) [View All]
    • Re: Spot Fookin On! - jimbasil - 8:38pm 7/31/22
      • You are a great American, jb! The best of us, - conorlarkin - 8:46pm 7/31/22
        • A Manhattan for you! [NT] [IMAGE] - jimbasil - 9:25pm 7/31/22
          • The one where you spit in it and say..."and there's Central Park"? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:54am 8/1/22
            • Waste good alcohol, me? Never! [NT] - jimbasil - 9:14am 8/1/22
        • Please back away from the crack pipe. [NT] - notredame678 - 9:06pm 7/31/22
          • Your smile says it all. [NT] [IMAGE] - jimbasil - 9:26pm 7/31/22
            • Hunter? [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 9:46pm 7/31/22
              • ND678 [NT] - jimbasil - 10:24pm 7/31/22
              • Jim?? [NT] - MuskyTommy - 9:50pm 7/31/22
    • What else would your reaction be when they tell you what to think? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:49pm 7/31/22
      • Same as age 12. - conorlarkin - 8:02pm 7/31/22
        • Spot Fookin On! [NT] - jimbasil - 8:39pm 7/31/22
    • Re: Spot Fookin On! [NT] [IMAGE] - Hank the Tank - 6:39pm 7/31/22
      • no way he can right when he always wrong [NT] - Hank the Tank - 6:42pm 7/31/22
    • Loved hearing AG Merrick Garland's unequivocal words... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 6:34pm 7/31/22
      • I will keep repeating: do not underestimate Garland’s tenacity. - conorlarkin - 7:07pm 7/31/22
        • Lock comrade Trumpsky and his fellow traitors up. - NocalIrish - 11:07pm 7/31/22
        • Trump is toxic. If Merry takes him down, he enables the Republicans. Pyrrhic victory. - Irishize - 7:31pm 7/31/22
          • He also knows to tread lightly. Merrick will be in the crosshairs himself after the midterms. - Stark Raving Dad - 8:12pm 7/31/22
        • Perhaps. But as you yourself have noted, he likely will not indict Trump. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 7:19pm 7/31/22
          • But if he does, you will know how compelling his decision was informed. [NT] - conorlarkin - 7:24pm 7/31/22
            • I suppose that might be true. Still, probably not going to happen. - Stark Raving Dad - 7:29pm 7/31/22
      • As Merry Garland tackles DJT, The Ronald slides into the end zone untouched. [NT] - Irishize - 6:53pm 7/31/22
    • Washington Compost. Same rag that said Putin hacked the grid and denied Vermonters electricity. [NT] - Cole - 6:25pm 7/31/22
    • Paywall! [NT] - LanceManion - 5:55pm 7/31/22
      • Think like a Marine. We breach walls with the command of a 1 foot putt. - conorlarkin - 6:32pm 7/31/22
        • You’re no Marine. [NT] - notredame678 - 9:04pm 7/31/22
      • I can see the title, and I see why Conor is excited. He wants a banana republic here. - NedoftheHill - 6:02pm 7/31/22
        • We write the histories of our own lives, Ned. - conorlarkin - 6:56pm 7/31/22
          • Please stop trying to destroy our justice system, education system, economic system. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:05pm 7/31/22
            • Don't forget the military. [NT] [LINK] - MAS - 7:55pm 7/31/22
              • Clinton loathed the military and things have been going in this direction ever since. [NT] - JarHead4ND - 8:56pm 7/31/22
                • democrats usually do. They pay lip service. Some actually serve. - Stark Raving Dad - 9:05pm 7/31/22
                  • For Dems, main purpose of military is to force changes on them that they can't force on society. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:24pm 7/31/22
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