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Ok, then...you acknowledge that a legal warrant was given to Trump's attorney...now let's talk about

Author: TyroneIrish (20684 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 2:42 pm on Aug 10, 2022
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Rachel Maddow's "Lie"...

First off, that episode you're referring to took place on March 29, 2021...that was when we were dealing with the original (or "Wild Type") version of COVID-19...the one that the mRNA vaccines were designed to protect us from infection...to the tune of a verified "95% effectivity"...the Delta variant didn't show up until May, 2021...and Omicron was only discovered in South Africa in November of that year...

Given the 'Wild Type''s R0 factor and a 95% protection rate, if nothing changed in the virus, and everyone got vaccinated, any epidemiologist would tell you that we would have essentially stamped out the disease...that was the situation when Ms. Maddow spoke...no one knew what the future held, although the CDC and WHO knew what could happen if people did not get vaccinated.

So, when Rachel spoke that evening, anyone who got vaccinated had a 95% chance of being immune to a COVID infection...if you want to castigate her for leaving out the 5%...which was widely publicized for all to see..then have at it...but there is no way you can put her comments on the same plane as Donald Trump's assertion that COVID was a "Hoax"...given DJT's verified knowledge of the disease's mortal danger back in Jan., 2020, that's what could be termed a real "Lie".

Rachel Maddow was doing the American public a service by encouraging everyone to get vaccinated...Donald Trump, in effect, influenced untold thousands to forgo vaccination...get sick...and in too many cases, die...see the difference?


Replies to: "Ok, then...you acknowledge that a legal warrant was given to Trump's attorney...now let's talk about"

  • Trump can publicly release the warrant. Will he? If not why? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 10:45am 8/10/22 (43) [View All]
    • They wouldn't leave him with a copy. They presented it to his lawyers quickly & then took it back. [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 3:43pm 8/10/22
    • A dispute between Trump and presidential archives doesn't warrant a FBI raid on his home, especially - Eli - 11:48am 8/10/22
      • Felonies require responses. The Dear Leader may have committed a felony. [NT] - Chris94 - 12:02pm 8/10/22
        • Like all the other felonies in the last 7 years? - WoodstockIrish - 5:20pm 8/10/22
          • you're praising the GOP for aiding and abetting Trump? Well Done. [NT] - jimbasil - 5:45pm 8/10/22
        • Nonsense. Why not appoint a special prosecutor to show it's not about partisan, it's about felony? [NT] - Eli - 3:20pm 8/10/22
          • A "special prosecutor" is not needed...and they are hardly nonpartisan - Chris94 - 3:56pm 8/10/22
        • your side has a track record there is no he commited a felony [NT] - Hank the Tank - 1:40pm 8/10/22
        • How about they just come out and say "we are trying to stop him from running in 2024"? Everyone - TampaIrish - 12:13pm 8/10/22
          • Meanwhile, back in the real world...a warrant for the retrieval of Confidential and potentially - TyroneIrish - 1:16pm 8/10/22
    • Patience. The Law requires caution and good timing.. not knee jerk reactions. [NT] - Curly1918 - 10:57am 8/10/22
      • The Law requires no such thing. Every one of you guys is talking out of your ass. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:16am 8/10/22
        • You were crying"the end of the republic" but were very quick to hop on the same train going your way [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:45pm 8/10/22
    • Reportedly, his lawyers were not given a copy. [NT] - Iggle - 10:46am 8/10/22
      • Oh yes they were...check out the examples linked in the attached article...standard procedure... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:26am 8/10/22
        • Good one. The Maddowblog. Remember this one, [NT] [LINK] - MuskyTommy - 12:01pm 8/10/22
          • Here is an example of a warrant given to John Eastman...it spells out what is being sought, and the [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 12:50pm 8/10/22
            • By the way. I know a little something about the criminal justice system. I don’t need a linked - MuskyTommy - 1:00pm 8/10/22
            • I could care less about Trump and the search warrant. Im just laughing you watch - MuskyTommy - 12:55pm 8/10/22
              • Did you find some error in the Maddowblog regarding the warrant issue? [NT] - TyroneIrish - 1:20pm 8/10/22
                • Just admit you watched that episode of Maddow and she fooled you thinking the vaccine - MuskyTommy - 1:34pm 8/10/22
                  • Ok, then...you acknowledge that a legal warrant was given to Trump's attorney...now let's talk about - TyroneIrish - 2:42pm 8/10/22
                    • Spin it any way you want she lied in March of 2021. If she wasn’t sure - MuskyTommy - 4:04pm 8/10/22
                • According to you they have all this great evidence to charge him. Then charge him and move - MuskyTommy - 1:31pm 8/10/22
        • Of course they were. This is stupid. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:42am 8/10/22
          • False - per Alina Habba Trump's attorney involved in case.Here's her own words in interview about ii [NT] [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 3:53pm 8/10/22
      • Reported by whom? Giuliani? Of course they were given a copy. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:13am 8/10/22
        • Actually they were not. They did not leave the warrant Monday night - WoodstockIrish - 12:31pm 8/10/22
      • Link? [NT] - jimbasil - 10:53am 8/10/22
        • "Halligan said the search warrant was sealed." [NT] [LINK] - Iggle - 11:11am 8/10/22
          • Do you amaze yourself with how consistently wrong you can be, daily, piggles? - jimbasil - 12:41pm 8/10/22
            • Dim nipping at everyone's ankles as usual. - Iggle - 2:21pm 8/10/22
              • Ah, Piggles got caught again posting his expertise that turns out to be wrong. - jimbasil - 2:35pm 8/10/22
          • That means until it is executed - Chris94 - 11:15am 8/10/22
            • Not a lawyer, but I think it also means they are not given a copy. - Iggle - 11:17am 8/10/22
              • No it doesn't. [LINK] - Chris94 - 11:19am 8/10/22
                • The words you quoted do not support your supposition. - Iggle - 11:22am 8/10/22
                  • I'll copy and paste the important line again - Chris94 - 11:36am 8/10/22
                    • The quote is missing "and given a copy of it". - Iggle - 11:38am 8/10/22
                      • I see. So you think they were just allowed to see it. No touching! Gotcha. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:42am 8/10/22
                        • Yes. As mentioned, that is the case in PA law. Have you shown any difference in federal law? No. [NT] - Iggle - 11:50am 8/10/22
                        • So you knew Mary Catherine in 7th grade too I see! [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 11:49am 8/10/22
                          • Your reference to playing "I'll show you mine" with Mary Catherine was...unwarranted. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:30pm 8/10/22
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