This isn't a raid of "general nature". And they were caught falsifying an affidavit on Trump already

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This isn't a raid of "general nature". And they were caught falsifying an affidavit on Trump already

Author: BaronVonZemo (55721 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:17 pm on Aug 15, 2022

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FBI attorney Clinesmith admitted to it. he also had a text fully admitting it...but the statute of limitations ran out at Barr dragged his feet and then COVID happened. Also, he was tried in DC which is a get out of jail free card for Dmes. But there is no dispute of the fact that the FBI did this.
This fact takes away the normal trust that can be given to the FBI, They are hiding something against trump until proven otherwise. esp given the broad range of materials seized and the fact that Trump was cooperating with them and had complied with a simple subpoena in the past.

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Replies to: "This isn't a raid of "general nature". And they were caught falsifying an affidavit on Trump already"

We've seen FBI fudge affidavit against Trump before. Why won't DOJ unseal it fully? - BaronVonZemo - 5:54pm 8/15/22 (68) [View All]
- DOJ’s filing: [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 7:22am 8/16/22
- I’m still waiting to see those reports where the FBI fudges affidavits against DJT. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:10am 8/16/22
  - We’re told “investigations take time”. No one knew about the other issues until after it happened - TampaIrish - 7:21am 8/16/22
- Director Wray orders raid on Trump's house...goes on vacation on FBI jet at expense of taxpayers. - NedoftheHill - 10:10pm 8/15/22
  - Once again...do a little research before you post...the AG and FBI Director are REQUIRED to use [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:30am 8/16/22
  - As long as he reimbursed the people for his travel, I guess - jimbasil - 1:17am 8/16/22
  - Is anyone going to yell at him for the damage he is doing to the climate with that jet? [NT] - TampaIrish - 10:15pm 8/15/22
- Apparently "who gives a shit?" is now an acceptable legal defense. - Stark Raving Dad - 9:49pm 8/15/22
  - Well, Baron better come up with the goods that show the FBI fudging - jimbasil - 1:21am 8/16/22
    - Intentional lie or blatant simpleton? Hmm. FBI lied before on affidavit&dont have benefit of doubt [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:44am 8/16/22
      - You’re inventing again, just like your cult leader. - jimbasil - 9:30am 8/16/22
- Release an affidavit to a target which reveals information +/or may compromise one or more CI's? [NT] - FinnMcCool - 8:55pm 8/15/22
  - Ever heard of redactions? [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 9:31pm 8/15/22
    - Why redact anything? Release the entire thing. Time to know who the informants are. - NedoftheHill - 10:19pm 8/15/22
  - Weren’t you on here cheering for Garland “calling Trumps bluff” about releasing the warrant? - TampaIrish - 9:22pm 8/15/22
    - Aye, that was me. And General Garland did release the warrant. [NT] - FinnMcCool - 9:42pm 8/15/22
      - And Trump called his bluff and told them to release everything. Funny how that wasn’t celebrated. [NT] - TampaIrish - 9:49pm 8/15/22
        Does the DOJ ever give Dons early access to witnesses or witness statements? [NT] - FinnMcCool - 10:02pm 8/15/22
        No clue, don’t get into DOJ cases in my manufacturing job. I work for a living. [NT] - TampaIrish - 10:10pm 8/15/22
    - Hard to be them when their marching orders change daily. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:28pm 8/15/22
  - Leftists prosecutors target individuals, not crimes. Good point. You guys learned well from Stalin. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:18pm 8/15/22
- If Trump hadn't been such a 'Scally Wag' and taken Top Secret documents, the affidavit wouldn't have [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 8:04pm 8/15/22
- Yeah, why won’t the DOJ operate on the timeline set out by the Trump cultists!? - Chris94 - 7:04pm 8/15/22
  - Maybe release it right before the midterms, with not enough time for it to be debunked until after [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:29pm 8/15/22
    - Merrick Garland is a ninja. [NT] - FinnMcCool - 9:14pm 8/15/22
      - Indeed. Thank god he's not on the Court. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:15pm 8/15/22
        Sam Alito, Clarence & Ginni, and Justice Brewski should speak out every day til November 8. [NT] - FinnMcCool - 9:40pm 8/15/22
        Anyone protesting at Garland's house yet? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:11pm 8/15/22
  - Because they lied to trap Trump in the past. The BidenFBI has no credibility here, and.... - BaronVonZemo - 7:23pm 8/15/22
    - Yes yes yes. Everything is “politicized.” Sure. - Chris94 - 7:26pm 8/15/22
      - Chris: "Yes, they lied about Trump in past, even fooled me, but don't assume they'd do it again" [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:32pm 8/15/22
      - De ja vu of your posts over the last 6 yrs proven wrong. Did FBI falsify an affidavit already on DT? - BaronVonZemo - 7:29pm 8/15/22
        Who gives a shit. And I’m sure you have it wrong, because your sources are shit. [NT] - Chris94 - 7:31pm 8/15/22
        "Did they falsify information?" Who gives a shit? Awesome. [NT] - Stark Raving Dad - 9:44pm 8/15/22
        
        Do you still think the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:58pm 8/15/22
        Come on now Ned, they had all those signatures. It has to be disinformation. They also had all - TampaIrish - 9:03pm 8/15/22
        He's got no credibility on these issues, but he acts like he does. So weird to watch. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:21pm 8/15/22
        On these issues? You new here? [NT] - TampaIrish - 9:23pm 8/15/22
        
        “Your sources are shit”- really? You read liberal rags like WaPo and NYT. Watch CNN and - TampaIrish - 7:35pm 8/15/22
        I knew about this from "my sources", and he did not. Kind of a big gap in knowledge on this case. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:44pm 8/15/22
        
        Here then. Yes or no? [NT] [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 7:32pm 8/15/22
        A guy altered an email to renew a FISA warrant against Paige… - Chris94 - 7:36pm 8/15/22
        PS-"altering the email" created the false evidence needed to continue spying on Trump& campaign. - BaronVonZemo - 7:46pm 8/15/22
        
        They did to Trump campaign worker to maintain FISAthat allowed Trump to be spied upon by association - BaronVonZemo - 7:42pm 8/15/22
        “They” didn’t do anything. One guy did. It was minor. He got caught. - Chris94 - 7:53pm 8/15/22
        No one did anything wrong. One guy did something wrong. Isolated people did things wrong. - NedoftheHill - 9:01pm 8/15/22
        
        His affidavit alteration allowed the approval of another FISA warrant. It's HUGE for credibility. - BaronVonZemo - 8:02pm 8/15/22
        
        And here. Yes or no? [NT] [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 7:33pm 8/15/22
        "Ill stop, but can go on. DemFBI illegally spied on Trump via his campaign worker Carter Paige [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:37pm 8/15/22
        
        Great comedy! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:32pm 8/15/22
        He complains about my sources, but he doesn't even know this HUGE factor. - BaronVonZemo - 7:39pm 8/15/22
- My guess is that you have not read the pleadings. Not sure they are published yet. - conorlarkin - 6:50pm 8/15/22
  - This isn't a raid of "general nature". And they were caught falsifying an affidavit on Trump already - BaronVonZemo - 7:17pm 8/15/22
- Oh they have, have they? How about you produce some of those facts. - jimbasil - 6:22pm 8/15/22
  - 17 significant errors and omissions during the FISA warrants. A polite way of saying lies. [NT] [LINK] - MuskyTommy - 7:28pm 8/15/22
    - Which part of “We've seen FBI fudge affidavit against Trump before. ” - jimbasil - 8:03pm 8/15/22
      - Which part of FBI fudged FISA warrants. They omitted stuff when getting these warrants. - MuskyTommy - 8:12pm 8/15/22
        It’s odd that you and your brethren here never read your links. - jimbasil - 8:23pm 8/15/22
        You think if Trump wasn’t the intended target they might have told him he had a spy on his campaign - MuskyTommy - 8:52pm 8/15/22
        
        I didn’t say anything about political bias. Im saying they made significant errors and omissions - MuskyTommy - 8:45pm 8/15/22
    - Plus FBI attorney Clinesmith was caught changing an affidavit and putting in false info to get FISA [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:30pm 8/15/22
      - Link it! [NT] - jimbasil - 8:03pm 8/15/22
        Look below a couple spots. [NT] - MuskyTommy - 8:09pm 8/15/22
        That’s Carter Page. I’m looking to see all the Trump fudging that happened. [NT] - jimbasil - 8:32pm 8/15/22
      - A case of this magnitude I would find it hard to believe all these mistakes were accidental. Just - MuskyTommy - 7:35pm 8/15/22
  - Here you go. Can't believe you didn't know this. [NT] [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 7:14pm 8/15/22
    - Don’t waste your time with Jim. Carter Paige is who they wanted all along. [NT] - MuskyTommy - 8:50pm 8/15/22
    - Ah, you meant Carter Page not DJT. you confused them - understandable seeing - jimbasil - 8:29pm 8/15/22