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You're too arrogant to admit that you are ignorant on this issue.

Author: MAS (18644 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:33 am on Aug 19, 2022
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Again, you cannot divorce "gender affirming care" from these surgeries. They usually go hand-in-hand.

Puberty blockers are not reversible. Kids on them will not catch up in terms of stature and bone development to what they would have been or when they mature and recognize they made a mistake. Having had a son born with SGA and was put on growth hormones, I can assure you that placing someone at age 15 to try to recover growth lost by puberty blockers will not restore that child to their growth trajectory prior to the blockers. The window for even marginal growth in stature is quite short and must be undertaken when a child is very young. We also lack a time machine at this point, so we cannot reverse the lost time and lost social development. TO make it more understandable for you, take a 12 year-old boy placed on puberty blockers. Since upwards of 90% of "trans" kids spontaneously grow out of these thought patters and return to "identifying" as they really are, that young man at 15 will be smaller and less developed than his male cohort, which in turn leads to social and psychological implications. This is particularly pronounced in boys, but it happens with girls, as well.

You conveniently left out cross-sex hormones. Are those reversible? They are not. Among all the consequences, when used in combination with puberty blockers, which is often the case, they can cause sterility.
Instead of reading science, you are reading text conceived gender theorists and activists, the first hits that appear on a Google search.

There's exactly one person reading these exchanges between us who thinks you are the knowledgeable one on this topic and I am the ignorant one. Guesses?


Replies to: "You're too arrogant to admit that you are ignorant on this issue."

  • Gender- affirming health care includes child abuse and mutilations. - Irishize - 8:39pm 8/18/22 (52) [View All]
    • A double mastectomy of a 14 year old girl is barbaric. [NT] - Irishize - 11:24am 8/19/22
      • The real barbarism is adults denying the reality of Gender Dysphoria without any effort to [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 11:52am 8/19/22
        • These kids are not experiencing gender dysphoria. It's a relatively rare phenomenon. - Stark Raving Dad - 8:34pm 8/19/22
          • Show me a study of Gender Dysphoria that categorically states there is no "Nature" or biological - TyroneIrish - 9:54pm 8/19/22
            • The sheer numbers suggest something else is in play. - Stark Raving Dad - 10:18pm 8/19/22
              • Translation:....you don't have anything...won't try to find anything that supports your biased - TyroneIrish - 11:17pm 8/19/22
                • There's no way anyone will publish anything refuting the "science". - Stark Raving Dad - 11:38pm 8/19/22
        • What's "not helpful" is doing irreversible treatment to these young people. - jakers - 12:12pm 8/19/22
          • (After "Counting to Ten")...read the link I provided in the 'Message' section of my 10:59 post... - TyroneIrish - 12:28pm 8/19/22
            • Yes, "lazy" = not watching 11 minutes into your stupid link. Imbecile. [NT] - jakers - 4:33pm 8/19/22
              • Your surrender is accepted. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:28pm 8/19/22
                • Still waiting for you to answer my question. Coward. [NT] - jakers - 10:38pm 8/19/22
        • His post states the obvious truth, which is why you oppose it. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:08pm 8/19/22
          • Gotta run...I'll check for your reply to my 12:20pm post later today. [NT] - TyroneIrish - 12:33pm 8/19/22
        • So, you admit it is a disorder. Progress. - NedoftheHill - 12:04pm 8/19/22
          • Why must you 'Politicize' everything?...Mental health professionals...not Pols, are doing their best [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 9:07pm 8/19/22
          • Certainly you've seen me post the words "Gender Dysphoria"...right?...therefore that's an - TyroneIrish - 12:20pm 8/19/22
            • Please educate yourself, and stop misrepresenting my position. - NedoftheHill - 12:42pm 8/19/22
              • The part I find interesting is that the left is against genital mutilation... - wrdomerson - 2:39pm 8/19/22
                • If you read further...in the next paragraph, you'll find this statement... - TyroneIrish - 9:51pm 8/19/22
                  • I know you probably won't see this, but I did read the whole article - wrdomerson - 2:07pm 8/22/22
                • Yep. The only thing that makes this different that I can see, is they think this gets them votes. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:45pm 8/19/22
    • Here is some very relevant data that should help everyone, including yourself, regarding this [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 10:59am 8/19/22
    • Sounds like you're having a nice Thursday night. - LanceHarbor - 9:27pm 8/18/22
      • Are you NDdouche? - iairishcheeks - 4:33am 8/19/22
        • For the life of me, I don’t understand people that seek out things to be angry about. - LanceHarbor - 8:07am 8/19/22
          • This is the Left's strongest argument: "Don't worry about the harm we create." - NedoftheHill - 11:55am 8/19/22
          • Like living in Buffalo? [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 11:17am 8/19/22
            • Aw, tell your son that was adorable and good try! [NT] - LanceHarbor - 11:29am 8/19/22
              • You’re as big a prick as you were 10 years ago - WoodstockIrish - 7:53am 8/21/22
          • Being you’re such a happy guy, I can see that. [NT] - jimbasil - 10:15am 8/19/22
            • Agreed Jim. Life is good! - LanceHarbor - 10:27am 8/19/22
              • 😊 [NT] - jimbasil - 11:01am 8/19/22
          • I posted about my buddies saga with this. It's not just disparate unnamed folk in parts unknown. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:44am 8/19/22
            • Irishize provided no such context. - LanceHarbor - 8:58am 8/19/22
              • 1. You're incorrect. 2. Cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers cause irreversible effects. 3. You.. - MAS - 10:11am 8/19/22
                • I didn’t reference “gender affirming care” I referenced surgeries. - LanceHarbor - 10:35am 8/19/22
                  • These surgeries and "gender affirming care" are inextricably linked. I tried to make that obvious. - MAS - 10:42am 8/19/22
                    • It’s just a wonderful benefit. - LanceHarbor - 10:58am 8/19/22
                      • You're too arrogant to admit that you are ignorant on this issue. - MAS - 11:33am 8/19/22
          • Plenty of angry miserable men inhabit this Board. Imagine the temperature in their households. [NT] - conorlarkin - 8:25am 8/19/22
            • Hey! If your team picked up 2 lousy points after 2 matches you'd be hot too! - Stark Raving Dad - 8:54am 8/19/22
              • Indeed. Futbol brings out our very best. [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 9:14am 8/19/22
                • I loved this! - Stark Raving Dad - 9:54am 8/19/22
    • Some difficult decisions will need to be made with these people. - jakers - 9:13pm 8/18/22
      • Precisely the people at the top of my list who should be canceled. - MAS - 9:30pm 8/18/22
        • "Yale medicine" here, on 3-year-olds' "gender journeys." [LINK] - jakers - 9:38pm 8/18/22
          • Mengele type stuff. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:14pm 8/19/22
    • This is part of the Democratic Party platform. [NT] - Cole - 8:58pm 8/18/22
    • The people who support that stuff don't care, cannot be helped, and cannot be persuaded. - MAS - 8:41pm 8/18/22
      • It's all a defense against awareness of repressed conflicts [NT] - Curly1918 - 8:46am 8/19/22
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