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Some good points. As the owner of an EV with 300 range, I would point out

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4620 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:45 pm on Aug 27, 2022
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I’m in my early 60s. I’ve got a 2019 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD. (The middle level between the Standard Range 2 wheel drive version and the top end Performance version.)

1.) it is the fastest vehicle I’ve ever owned, and there are other Teslas that are faster. This makes it fun to drive. This idea of EVs with tiny batteries that would have low performance like a 1965 Beetle are of no interest to me or most Americans. Maybe in some other countries that are used small, slow cars, but not here.
2.) I think plug-in hybrids are the worst of both worlds. You lose all of the mechanical simplicity and low maintenance of an EV, and the added weight of having both Internal combustion engines, electric motors, battery, gas, etc.
3,) Having a car with both a Lithium based battery and gasoline seems like driving a bomb. Once again no interest in plug in hybrids.
4.) My wife has a Toyota RAV4, and I thought we would take it out of town trips instead of the Tesla. We did that exactly once in the 3 years we’ve owned the Tesla. The Tesla just rides/drives so much better, and costs so much less to drive. It limits where you stop since there isn’t a supercharger at every exit yet, but there are plenty of Tesla superchargers along every major highway that there is zero range anxiety. I seldom charge for more than 15 minutes which gives me sufficient charge until my aging body and that of my wife’s needs another bio break. The charging infrastructure for Tesla owners is just fine now for any interstate based trip. (My biggest concern with taking the Tesla on an out of town trip is that it does not have a spare tire, and the 6 year old RAV4 does. Seems like many new cars don’t have spares these days either.)
5. This article advocating for smaller, slower, boring EVs reminds me of articles urging people to drive Smartcars or similar internal combustion vehicles I’ve read for the 40 years. I just don’t see it happening.


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Replies to: "Some good points. As the owner of an EV with 300 range, I would point out"

  • On batteries --- [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 1:42pm 8/27/22 (24) [View All]
    • I'm making prediction, lithium-ion battery based EV will fail in US - Eli - 9:37am 8/28/22
    • Some good points. As the owner of an EV with 300 range, I would point out - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 11:45pm 8/27/22
      • Makes sense, especially with Tesla. - conorlarkin - 3:53pm 8/28/22
        • Most residential charging is at night, so that complicates things. - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 5:21pm 8/28/22
          • I was thinking of a mini version of this (next to basketball hoop): [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 4:36pm 8/29/22
      • Very well said [NT] - JarHead4ND - 1:09am 8/28/22
    • NYSlimes. Same newspaper that supports cannibalism. [NT] - Cole - 4:33pm 8/27/22
      • Plus Hitler and Stalin! [NT] - Chris94 - 5:21pm 8/27/22
        • Glad to see you took a history class. [NT] - Cole - 6:30pm 8/27/22
    • Can you summarize conor, can’t see it. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:17pm 8/27/22
      • Yes. - conorlarkin - 3:42pm 8/27/22
        • There's an issue with disposal of used batteries that ev adherents don't seem to want to talk about. [LINK] - JarHead4ND - 12:31am 8/28/22
          • The author of your article is a bit more optimistic than you are...here's an excerpt... - TyroneIrish - 1:39am 8/28/22
            • I'm concerned legislating mfrs/dlrs to take used batteries will lead to higher retail prices - JarHead4ND - 6:58am 8/28/22
              • I never thought a fighter pilot would be a 'Glass Half Empty' kind of guy...first, re; Lithium... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:59pm 8/28/22
        • Thank you. The author has some good points, but definitely lives in an urban bubble. - BaronVonZemo - 7:11pm 8/27/22
          • Maybe this will cheer you up …. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:40pm 8/27/22
          • PS-If CC is really the impetus for change, why no emphasis on aerospace and shipping? Massive. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:54pm 8/27/22
    • I can only see the title, but seems like something a city dweller would write. - NedoftheHill - 3:04pm 8/27/22
      • Elon's Take. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 3:31pm 8/27/22
        • 300 miles is fine...if you can recharge it in 15 minutes. - NedoftheHill - 5:21pm 8/27/22
          • Another interesting take on the future I heard... - iairishcheeks - 5:32pm 8/27/22
            • Meh. We already have that...Zip Car. A fringe operation in a few cities. [NT] - Iggle - 11:24pm 8/27/22
              • If it was self driving, I'd be in. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:53pm 8/28/22
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