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The author of your article is a bit more optimistic than you are...here's an excerpt...

Author: TyroneIrish (20412 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:39 am on Aug 28, 2022
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To avoid the acceleration of these trends, regulations will be needed AS WE SHIFT to an electric vehicle future. Whereas China and the E.U. require electric vehicle manufacturers to take back spent batteries from consumers, no similar regulation or legislation has been adopted in the U.S. The track record in the U.S. for recycling e-waste does not offer much relief. Only three states have extended producer responsibility laws mandating that manufacturers take back lithium-ion batteries used in electronics, and none include vehicles. There are no clear prohibitions against exporting used lithium-ion batteries or selling used vehicles with degraded batteries to low-income countries at fire-sale prices. (emphasis mine).

But these are STILL EARLY DAYS, and there is still time to implement legislative solutions that can help avert an impending waste crisis. To that end, the California Environmental Protection Agency has formed a multi-stakeholder committee, of which I am a member, that will advise the state legislature on crafting practical solutions. (emphasis mine)
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Even the author knows what the future holds...if he thought there could be no solution(s), he'd have written the piece differently.


Replies to: "The author of your article is a bit more optimistic than you are...here's an excerpt..."

  • On batteries --- [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 1:42pm 8/27/22 (24) [View All]
    • I'm making prediction, lithium-ion battery based EV will fail in US - Eli - 9:37am 8/28/22
    • Some good points. As the owner of an EV with 300 range, I would point out - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 11:45pm 8/27/22
      • Makes sense, especially with Tesla. - conorlarkin - 3:53pm 8/28/22
        • Most residential charging is at night, so that complicates things. - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 5:21pm 8/28/22
          • I was thinking of a mini version of this (next to basketball hoop): [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 4:36pm 8/29/22
      • Very well said [NT] - JarHead4ND - 1:09am 8/28/22
    • NYSlimes. Same newspaper that supports cannibalism. [NT] - Cole - 4:33pm 8/27/22
      • Plus Hitler and Stalin! [NT] - Chris94 - 5:21pm 8/27/22
        • Glad to see you took a history class. [NT] - Cole - 6:30pm 8/27/22
    • Can you summarize conor, can’t see it. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 3:17pm 8/27/22
      • Yes. - conorlarkin - 3:42pm 8/27/22
        • There's an issue with disposal of used batteries that ev adherents don't seem to want to talk about. [LINK] - JarHead4ND - 12:31am 8/28/22
          • The author of your article is a bit more optimistic than you are...here's an excerpt... - TyroneIrish - 1:39am 8/28/22
            • I'm concerned legislating mfrs/dlrs to take used batteries will lead to higher retail prices - JarHead4ND - 6:58am 8/28/22
              • I never thought a fighter pilot would be a 'Glass Half Empty' kind of guy...first, re; Lithium... [LINK] - TyroneIrish - 1:59pm 8/28/22
        • Thank you. The author has some good points, but definitely lives in an urban bubble. - BaronVonZemo - 7:11pm 8/27/22
          • Maybe this will cheer you up …. [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 9:40pm 8/27/22
          • PS-If CC is really the impetus for change, why no emphasis on aerospace and shipping? Massive. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:54pm 8/27/22
    • I can only see the title, but seems like something a city dweller would write. - NedoftheHill - 3:04pm 8/27/22
      • Elon's Take. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 3:31pm 8/27/22
        • 300 miles is fine...if you can recharge it in 15 minutes. - NedoftheHill - 5:21pm 8/27/22
          • Another interesting take on the future I heard... - iairishcheeks - 5:32pm 8/27/22
            • Meh. We already have that...Zip Car. A fringe operation in a few cities. [NT] - Iggle - 11:24pm 8/27/22
              • If it was self driving, I'd be in. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 5:53pm 8/28/22
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