Always in the national title conversation - virtually always top ten. Plus sent tons of talent to the NBA on an annual basis. Got lazy in the 80s, sporadic recruiting, conference ascendancy and the rise of the Big East killed the catholic school pipeline. For all his talent I believe he underperformed with just one final four. 79 loss in elite eight to Magic and MSU hurt, but sweet 16 loss the next year to BYU and Danny Ainge on a coast to coast layup was devastating. Brey has actually over performed I believe from his lackluster recruiting, and offensively always puts up numbers but defensive and rebounding focus has been lacking. That said I never saw ACC tournament title or elite 8s back to back coming - I had gotten way too used to early tournament exits even when high seeds. And I must say Matts play at point guard this season has shocked me - he really has to be the surprise of the season for the country. I way misjudged the way this season would go so far - I saw the team as ACC bottom feeders. I have always wondered what would of happened had Doherty not left for UNC after one season - before his ego got the best of him I really thought he could succeed huge at ND. I liked his fiery attitude and thought he would do great at recruiting.