And Coach K has been able to mold a bunch of freshmen to beat [badly] a very experienced ND team. Duke absolutely has more talent. But Coach K started out as Brey did. The big difference is that he won, and won, and won, and put himself into a position to recruit the 5 stars. But he won way more than Brey did BEFORE he recruited the 5 stars. We should admit the inconvenient truth - Brey has recruited 5 stars and not gotten them, because, for most of 18 years, his teams have been mediocre. And he is not a great recruiter.