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Yep, easy to have a list that goes on and on, when most on it are terrible or laughable examples..

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:52 am on Nov 16, 2016
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Bill Walsh - First of all started as a college coach, had first HC job in college, and did great at Stanford, before jumping to NFL. There he, well if you don't know what he did there, no point telling you. Then after getting burned out during a long and successful stay in the NFL, he took 4-5 years off and then returned to revive a dismal Stanford and had 1 great year and 2 bad years before retiring from coaching. This had to do with his age and being burned out, not NFL vs college experience and he still had 3 good seasons vs 2 bad seasons (the opposite pattern of our current coach, who you defend) and is remembered as one of Stanford's more successful coaches...oh, and he was 3-0 in bowl games. Man what a terrible, terrible example this is.

Bill Callahan - He took over a loaded team from Gruden and maintained it for one year before turning it into a complete dumpster fire and being fired the following year. Just a poor NFL HC hire, who still did better in college than he did in NFL. 27-22 in college vs 15-17 in NFL. Weak, next.

Mike Sherman - He started as a college coach, but did get his first HC job in NFL and promptly flunked his way all the way out going from NFL HC, to NFL assist HC, to NFL coordinator, to college HC, to high school HC (in that order). This is the closest thing you have to a good example and the guy is a total anomaly starting at the very top and flunking his way all the way down to the lowest level. This has little to do with NFL Vs college experience and more to do with him just being a poor HC. Close, but still fairly weak example.

Chan Gailey - This one is just laughable at best. He had TWO (2) COLLEGE Head Coaching stops and one arena league HC stop before his first NFL HC job in which he lasted 2 years before being fired. (((AND))) he was significantly better in college than in the NFL. 68-43 in college Vs 34-46 in NFL. Complete joke of an example!

Al Groh - This guy coached in college from '68 to '86 AND had his first HC stop in college before moving to NFL as an assistant, where he ended up having ONE season as a HC before being let go and moving back to college. Weak, just plain weak and inaccurate example..

Lane 'F'ing' Kiffin - Are you kidding me? He lasted 1 season and 4 games in his only NFL HC stop, going 4-12 and 1-3 respectively. He then went to college where he didn't meet high expectations, but did way, WAY better than he did in NFL. 35-21 in college Vs 5-15 in NFL. Really reaching here..

Forrest Gregg - This one is absolutely hilarious!! Resorting to using the guy who went to SMU directly after it received the "death penalty" from the NCAA for his only 2 college HC seasons. Yeah, your list of examples must truly be never ending if this is the level you are going to.

You continue to display that you lack the requisite football IQ to discuss basic football matters.


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Replies to: "Yep, easy to have a list that goes on and on, when most on it are terrible or laughable examples.."

  • Mike McCarthy is a possibility. Might be available. Great hire IMO. [NT] - Dr Lou - 4:36pm 11/15/16 (46) [View All]
    • I'd be all for it. Mike went to my high school, about 20 years later than I did, but... - bbkingfish - 11:19am 11/16/16
      • Now those are wonderful reasons to hire a coach. Jack needs to get on the plane today - Irish_Demon - 2:28pm 11/16/16
      • Sounds like a great hire! - NY3 - 2:09pm 11/16/16
        • No more cheapskates at ND! - bbkingfish - 4:15pm 11/16/16
    • I kinda like the idea. Guys from the pros understand - faircatchcorby - 8:38pm 11/15/16
      • Did you see his remarks in his Monday presser? - pittsnyfan - 12:40pm 11/16/16
        • No I did not see this. Perhaps I should reconsider - faircatchcorby - 9:35pm 11/16/16
    • Yep, another pro guy with zero college head coaching experience. - MAS - 7:20pm 11/15/16
      • Yep, easy to have a list that goes on and on, when most on it are terrible or laughable examples.. - Chrisb - 10:52am 11/16/16
        • Re: Yep, easy to have a list that goes on and on, when most on it are terrible or laughable examples.. - eftg1 - 3:59pm 11/16/16
      • Agree. The success rate of NFL coaches that move to college, as well as vice versa, is fairly low [NT] - Irish_Demon - 8:44pm 11/15/16
        • Serious question, are there stats to back that up? [NT] - NDNEIL - 10:00pm 11/15/16
          • In the past 25 years, name the NFL only head coaches have returned to college and been successful? - D2 - 12:58pm 11/16/16
            • That's not the point - NDNEIL - 7:59pm 11/17/16
            • In the past 25 years, name the NFL only head coaches have returned to college and been unsuccessful? [NT] - Chrisb - 1:36pm 11/16/16
              • There is a reason for the lack of attempts - D2 - 3:13pm 11/16/16
                • I don't agree with that.. - Chrisb - 5:54pm 11/16/16
                  • I get that you aren't inherently arguing for a NFL coach - D2 - 9:39pm 11/16/16
              • CHARLIE WEIS. That's one example enough. That said, I'd hire Bill O'Brien given his college record [NT] - NY3 - 2:12pm 11/16/16
                • Epic Fail! Weis did not have NFL head coaching experience. [NT] - Chrisb - 5:33pm 11/16/16
          • No, it's a myth. Having said that, finding someone with successfull college HC experience.. - Chrisb - 11:59pm 11/15/16
            • A myth? really?. - Irish_Demon - 12:42am 11/16/16
              • The reality is, most coaches fail - NDNEIL - 8:03pm 11/17/16
              • It really isn't a myth, especially in the last 25 years - D2 - 1:15pm 11/16/16
                • It really is. - Chrisb - 1:57pm 11/16/16
                  • You essentially are saying because there isn't enough evidence to make a effective judgement - D2 - 3:09pm 11/16/16
                    • Huh? - NDNEIL - 8:08pm 11/17/16
                    • No not really.. - Chrisb - 6:06pm 11/16/16
                      • Sorry but I think you're full of it. - D2 - 9:35pm 11/16/16
                        • And I think you are, so... - Chrisb - 10:26pm 11/16/16
                          • If you really had relevant data, you would certainly let me know. - D2 - 11:25am 11/17/16
                            • Lovie Smith was unemployed - NDNEIL - 8:10pm 11/17/16
                              • So was Pete Carroll as was Jim Mora - D2 - 9:53am 11/18/16
              • Yes. - Chrisb - 8:12am 11/16/16
      • Ummm, Dan Devine turned out ok! [NT] - faircatchcorby - 8:34pm 11/15/16
        • umm check your history - D2 - 9:36pm 11/15/16
        • Uhm, Dan Devine was a highly successful college coach that spent a short time in the pros - Irish_Demon - 8:45pm 11/15/16
    • Re: Mike McCarthy is a possibility. Might be available. Great hire IMO. - Irishshark - 6:02pm 11/15/16
    • Would be nice, but... - ndunabomber - 4:48pm 11/15/16
      • He may be looking for a fresh start [NT] - Dr Lou - 5:52pm 11/15/16
        • Green Bay is close to looking for a fresh start. He's 9-13 in last 22 games. - pittsnyfan - 12:41pm 11/16/16
        • Possibly... - ndunabomber - 11:05pm 11/15/16
        • But not a death wish! [NT] - whatsamataU - 6:01pm 11/15/16
    • Can we get Aaron Rodgers too? [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 4:48pm 11/15/16
      • As long as his woman comes with him. Can I say that here? [NT] - Dr Lou - 5:53pm 11/15/16
        • No. That's now referred to as being a MISOGYNIST, even though it's not. [NT] - NY3 - 2:28pm 11/16/16
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