Sorry but I think you're full of it.

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Sorry but I think you're full of it.

Author: D2 (7528 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Nov 16, 2016

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I'd like to see the evidence to back up what you say to be true particularly as it relates to the last 25-30 years because before that just isn't applicable.

There simply aren't that many guys ( a mere handful) who have gone from NFL only coach to college to back up what you claim to be true to make it a meaningful sample.

The fact that there are so few to make the move when there are so many failures/firings at the pro level In other words( the pros create 3-4 former head coaches every year that would be ripe for the move) certainly indicates a recognition of the vast differences in the two games and it certainly isn't about money anymore.

All in all even with the silly ass speculation (granted there is little else hopeful right now) to bring up names like Mike McCarthy, Bill Cohwer, Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, and my favorite, Tom Couglin ( who folks have been bringing up for years because he was a coach in college 20+ years ago) etc is fantasy at it's highest level.

Replies to: "Sorry but I think you're full of it."

Mike McCarthy is a possibility. Might be available. Great hire IMO. [NT] - Dr Lou - 4:36pm 11/15/16 (46) [View All]
- I'd be all for it. Mike went to my high school, about 20 years later than I did, but... - bbkingfish - 11:19am 11/16/16
  - Now those are wonderful reasons to hire a coach. Jack needs to get on the plane today - Irish_Demon - 2:28pm 11/16/16
  - Sounds like a great hire! - NY3 - 2:09pm 11/16/16
    - No more cheapskates at ND! - bbkingfish - 4:15pm 11/16/16
- I kinda like the idea. Guys from the pros understand - faircatchcorby - 8:38pm 11/15/16
  - Did you see his remarks in his Monday presser? - pittsnyfan - 12:40pm 11/16/16
    - No I did not see this. Perhaps I should reconsider - faircatchcorby - 9:35pm 11/16/16
- Yep, another pro guy with zero college head coaching experience. - MAS - 7:20pm 11/15/16
  - Yep, easy to have a list that goes on and on, when most on it are terrible or laughable examples.. - Chrisb - 10:52am 11/16/16
    - Re: Yep, easy to have a list that goes on and on, when most on it are terrible or laughable examples.. - eftg1 - 3:59pm 11/16/16
  - Agree. The success rate of NFL coaches that move to college, as well as vice versa, is fairly low [NT] - Irish_Demon - 8:44pm 11/15/16
    - Serious question, are there stats to back that up? [NT] - NDNEIL - 10:00pm 11/15/16
      - In the past 25 years, name the NFL only head coaches have returned to college and been successful? - D2 - 12:58pm 11/16/16
        That's not the point - NDNEIL - 7:59pm 11/17/16
        
        In the past 25 years, name the NFL only head coaches have returned to college and been unsuccessful? [NT] - Chrisb - 1:36pm 11/16/16
        There is a reason for the lack of attempts - D2 - 3:13pm 11/16/16
        I don't agree with that.. - Chrisb - 5:54pm 11/16/16
        I get that you aren't inherently arguing for a NFL coach - D2 - 9:39pm 11/16/16
        
        CHARLIE WEIS. That's one example enough. That said, I'd hire Bill O'Brien given his college record [NT] - NY3 - 2:12pm 11/16/16
        Epic Fail! Weis did not have NFL head coaching experience. [NT] - Chrisb - 5:33pm 11/16/16
      - No, it's a myth. Having said that, finding someone with successfull college HC experience.. - Chrisb - 11:59pm 11/15/16
        A myth? really?. - Irish_Demon - 12:42am 11/16/16
        The reality is, most coaches fail - NDNEIL - 8:03pm 11/17/16
        
        It really isn't a myth, especially in the last 25 years - D2 - 1:15pm 11/16/16
        It really is. - Chrisb - 1:57pm 11/16/16
        You essentially are saying because there isn't enough evidence to make a effective judgement - D2 - 3:09pm 11/16/16
        Huh? - NDNEIL - 8:08pm 11/17/16
        
        No not really.. - Chrisb - 6:06pm 11/16/16
        Sorry but I think you're full of it. - D2 - 9:35pm 11/16/16
        And I think you are, so... - Chrisb - 10:26pm 11/16/16
        If you really had relevant data, you would certainly let me know. - D2 - 11:25am 11/17/16
        Lovie Smith was unemployed - NDNEIL - 8:10pm 11/17/16
        So was Pete Carroll as was Jim Mora - D2 - 9:53am 11/18/16
        
        Yes. - Chrisb - 8:12am 11/16/16
  - Ummm, Dan Devine turned out ok! [NT] - faircatchcorby - 8:34pm 11/15/16
    - umm check your history - D2 - 9:36pm 11/15/16
    - Uhm, Dan Devine was a highly successful college coach that spent a short time in the pros - Irish_Demon - 8:45pm 11/15/16
- Re: Mike McCarthy is a possibility. Might be available. Great hire IMO. - Irishshark - 6:02pm 11/15/16
- Would be nice, but... - ndunabomber - 4:48pm 11/15/16
  - He may be looking for a fresh start [NT] - Dr Lou - 5:52pm 11/15/16
    - Green Bay is close to looking for a fresh start. He's 9-13 in last 22 games. - pittsnyfan - 12:41pm 11/16/16
    - Possibly... - ndunabomber - 11:05pm 11/15/16
    - But not a death wish! [NT] - whatsamataU - 6:01pm 11/15/16
- Can we get Aaron Rodgers too? [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 4:48pm 11/15/16
  - As long as his woman comes with him. Can I say that here? [NT] - Dr Lou - 5:53pm 11/15/16
    - No. That's now referred to as being a MISOGYNIST, even though it's not. [NT] - NY3 - 2:28pm 11/16/16