Menu
UHND.com - Notre Dame Football, Basketball, & Recruiting
Football
2023 Notre Dame Football Schedule
2023 Notre Dame Roster
2022 Notre Dame Coaching Staff
Injury News & Updates
Notre Dame Football Depth Charts
Notre Dame Point Spreads & Betting Odds
Notre Dame Transfers
NFL Fighting Irish
Game Archive
Player Archive
Past Seasons & Results
Recruiting
Commits
News & Rumors
Class of 2018 Commit List
Class of 2019 Commit List
Class of 2020 Commit List
Class of 2021 Commit List
Archives
History
Notre Dame Bowl History
Notre Dame NFL Draft History
Notre Dame Football ESPN GameDay History
Notre Dame Heisman Trophy Winners
Notre Dame Football National Championships
Notre Dame Football Rivalries
Notre Dame Stadium
Touchdown Jesus
Basketball
Forums
Chat Room
Football Forum
Open Forum
Basketball Board
Ticket Exchange
Videos
Notre Dame Basketball Highlights
Notre Dame Football Highlights
Notre Dame Football Recruiting Highlights
Notre Dame Player Highlights
Hype Videos
Latest News
Gear
About
Advertise With Us
Contact Us
Our RSS Feeds
Community Rules
Privacy Policy
RSS
YouTube
Twitter
Facebook
Home
>
Forums
>
Football Message Board
Login
|
Register
Username
Password
Remember me
Sign in
Talent and recruiting are fine. Development is horrendous
Author:
oldirish
(8703 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)
Posted at 4:51 pm on Sep 14, 2018
View All
(no message)
Replies to: "Talent and recruiting are fine. Development is horrendous"
Honest question. Look at Alabama's coaching Staff. What coaches at ND are better?
-
Aragoto
- 12:10pm 9/14/18
(48)
[View All]
Re: Honest question. Look at Alabama's coaching Staff. What coaches at ND are better?
-
THEISMANCARR
- 4:09pm 9/14/18
Re: Honest question. Look at Alabama's coaching Staff. What coaches at ND are better?
-
NDSoxfan
- 5:41pm 9/14/18
Re: Honest question. Look at Alabama's coaching Staff. What coaches at ND are better?
-
eftg1
- 4:41pm 9/14/18
Kelly has had dagger in hand for about an hour of total gametime between 2 games...
-
StreetFightingIrish
- 5:57pm 9/14/18
Saban: "winning is an attitude that reflects leadership". Starts at the top....
[NT]
-
KWIRISH
- 2:27pm 9/14/18
Mr. Miyagi
-
knuterockne13
- 7:50pm 9/14/18
Re: Mr. Miyagi
-
NDSoxfan
- 10:13pm 9/14/18
Could not agree more.
[NT]
-
oldirish
- 4:07pm 9/14/18
The head coach is the issue
-
D2
- 1:31pm 9/14/18
Re: The head coach is the issue
-
NDSoxfan
- 5:37pm 9/14/18
I'm sure CMU is a fine institution with many fine graduates like yourself
-
D2
- 7:02pm 9/14/18
Kelly mentioned yesterday (again) his 28 years of "doing this"
-
knuterockne13
- 8:56pm 9/14/18
Good question - there's a case to be made for both. I would assume you can't coach talent if it's
-
jimbasil
- 1:29pm 9/14/18
A theme of Kelly's is "attention to detail'. I take that as being disciplined.
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 1:34pm 9/14/18
I think Saban would win more games with ND's team than Kelly would with Bama's team.
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 12:50pm 9/14/18
Saban has gotten much better at Bama. Lost more games at MSU in 5 years than in 12 at Bama
[NT]
-
irishone
- 3:00pm 9/14/18
He's great, but the getting better could be attributed to the lax rules in the SEC. Saban definitely
-
oldirish
- 4:41pm 9/14/18
Re: He's great, but the getting better could be attributed to the lax rules in the SEC. Saban definitely
-
kowpoke
- 6:08pm 9/14/18
True
[NT]
-
CC72
- 5:13pm 9/14/18
Saban still might, Everyone knows Kelly’s late game coaching paralysis. How many of the top kids
-
whatsamataU
- 12:46pm 9/14/18
Well stated. Agree 100%. Hiring Elko and Balis were great hires. Then promoting Lea was great.
[NT]
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 12:56pm 9/14/18
Keeping them would have “ greater”!
[NT]
-
whatsamataU
- 1:15pm 9/14/18
Both
-
ndunabomber
- 12:43pm 9/14/18
Your last line is spot on. The talent is 100% there. Unfortunately, the same type talent isn't
-
oldirish
- 4:44pm 9/14/18
Seems reasonable.
[NT]
-
THEISMANCARR
- 4:13pm 9/14/18
When Mal Moore hired Saban he stated, I wasn’t sure I got the best college coach, but I knew I got
[
LINK
]
-
whatsamataU
- 12:43pm 9/14/18
This is a good point.
-
iairishcheeks
- 4:37pm 9/14/18
Well the clear answer is Brian Polian and Tom Rees, Bama doesn't have them. Oh and the head coach
[NT]
-
PBHangingChad
- 12:37pm 9/14/18
Do you really think Rees is Wimbush's problem therefore he is a bad coach?
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 12:40pm 9/14/18
Then why did Kelly even recruite him? He’s not a developer of talent and doesn’t have a great eye
-
whatsamataU
- 12:54pm 9/14/18
Because his original commit decided to go to Alabama.
[NT]
-
iairishcheeks
- 4:41pm 9/14/18
Sure. Wimbush had good high school numbers. I don't have an issue with him being recruited.
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 1:25pm 9/14/18
I don’t believe his completion rate was any better in HS?
[NT]
-
whatsamataU
- 1:48pm 9/14/18
So.=57%. Jr.=65%. Sr.=76%
[NT]
-
Aragoto
- 1:52pm 9/14/18
His HS coach obviously fudged those numbers. BW couldn't complete 76% of handoffs.
[NT]
-
oldirish
- 4:47pm 9/14/18
All I know is our special teams and QB play have sucked for years under Kelly. Players or coaches?
[NT]
-
PBHangingChad
- 12:45pm 9/14/18
Both. We don’t get the depth or talent to move to ST’s.
[NT]
-
whatsamataU
- 1:18pm 9/14/18
Good point. I have been critical of Kelly in the past for too many 3-stars.
-
Aragoto
- 1:35pm 9/14/18
If I were a 5* player I don't know if I would want to play for Kelly or at ND.
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 1:42pm 9/14/18
More 4's.
[NT]
-
Aragoto
- 1:49pm 9/14/18
I have always thought he recruits well. Some years are better than others.
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 1:55pm 9/14/18
True, he gets top 10 talent most of the time.
-
Aragoto
- 2:21pm 9/14/18
Top 15
[NT]
-
whatsamataU
- 5:50pm 9/14/18
Talent and recruiting are fine. Development is horrendous
[NT]
-
oldirish
- 4:51pm 9/14/18
I agree that ST is bad. I agree QB play is bad.
-
GaSubwayIrish
- 12:53pm 9/14/18
Wimbush is Wimbush’s biggest problem but this staff recruited him over other guys.
[NT]
-
whatsamataU
- 12:44pm 9/14/18
More importantly, they put him on the field. What does that say about the backups or their judgement
[NT]
-
PBHangingChad
- 12:47pm 9/14/18
Based on track record. I lean toward bad judgement over what it says about backups
[NT]
-
oldirish
- 4:53pm 9/14/18