Tie it to Neil's point above. We say STs cost us important "style points." Okay. So let's say ND devoted more STs time to practice throughout the season. That might have prevented the "style point" loss. But it would have taken practice time away from other areas. Maybe then we are talking about red zone defense costing us a game, instead of just style points. Or inability to execute any area of offense or defense costing us a game. I thank cheeks here for his input in this discussion. Neil too. It causes me to reconsider some things. I agree that ND's STs haven't been good. But it clearly is more complex than just saying "ND needs more focus on STs." We don't necessarily think about the limitations of practice time as fans. But there is only so much time, and there are a lot of areas that need attention. All that said, I agree that STs has been a weakness. And it certainly could cost ND. Maybe it is as simple as replacing Polian. Maybe not.