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not my question. curious about the Holtz years.
Replies to: "not my question. curious about the Holtz years."
- Curious..I know many of Holtz’ Players would no longer be accepted at ND. Any idea how ’ - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:33pm 1/8/19
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- Disagree with your premise. Here are a few salient points - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 4:46pm 1/8/19
- Prop 48 connotation hurt going forward as well as they didn’t have to have two languages (one being - whatsamataU - 8:03pm 1/8/19
- Overall you make some good points points but you miss big on one - D2 - 5:14pm 1/8/19
- That is sound and I believe true. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 5:10pm 1/8/19
- No premise; it’s a question. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 5:08pm 1/8/19
- How do you know this? [NT]
- Nigel Tufnel - 4:13pm 1/8/19
- Referencing what many have said on here for years [NT]
- WestCoastIrishFan - 5:09pm 1/8/19
- As I thought - Nigel Tufnel - 6:14pm 1/8/19
- Different sports, but bear with nme for a sec - 86domer - 12:09pm 1/9/19
- Well put - WoodstockIrish - 3:00pm 1/9/19
- It is about recruiting and retention - Dinglewood - 6:05pm 1/9/19
- Good point - ND must support these recruits - 86domer - 3:12pm 1/10/19
- Didnt Tony Rice attend the school across US31, next door to St Mary's? - WoodstockIrish - 12:01pm 1/10/19
- Rice came straight to ND (I think you are thinking Holy Cross) - 86domer - 12:38pm 1/10/19
- That is correct. A prop 48 student would not have gone to a junior college... - Irish_Demon - 4:24pm 1/10/19
- Couple points - Dinglewood - 3:12pm 1/12/19
- That is correct. A prop 48 student would not have gone to a junior college... - Irish_Demon - 4:24pm 1/10/19
- Rice came straight to ND (I think you are thinking Holy Cross) - 86domer - 12:38pm 1/10/19
- It is about recruiting and retention - Dinglewood - 6:05pm 1/9/19
- Well put - WoodstockIrish - 3:00pm 1/9/19
- Something is preventing ND from recruiting the way Holtz did? [NT]
- WestCoastIrishFan - 9:13pm 1/8/19
- I don't have a good answer to that - Nigel Tufnel - 1:58pm 1/9/19
- What exactly is a gray shirting practice? - WoodstockIrish - 3:04pm 1/9/19
- Bama and many top programs practice what you describe, but that is not gray shirting. - Irish_Demon - 5:13pm 1/9/19
- Keep in mind too - WoodstockIrish - 12:03pm 1/10/19
- Absolutely right. The financial hardship is why so many enroll in junior college. Also... - Irish_Demon - 4:40pm 1/10/19
- In-state tuition at Bama is over $10,000 per year. Out of state, around $30,000. [LINK]
- Napoleon - 12:15pm 1/10/19
- In this day and age - WoodstockIrish - 12:27pm 1/10/19
- That’s the problem. - Napoleon - 10:55pm 1/10/19
- Agree [NT] - Irish_Demon - 10:46am 1/11/19
- That would be very cheap. But he cited tuition only. He did not include the other costs associated. - Irish_Demon - 4:38pm 1/10/19
- Yes. The point I was trying to make is that it is a big financial burden. - Napoleon - 10:57pm 1/10/19
- Very true [NT] - Irish_Demon - 10:49am 1/11/19
- Yes. The point I was trying to make is that it is a big financial burden. - Napoleon - 10:57pm 1/10/19
- That’s the problem. - Napoleon - 10:55pm 1/10/19
- In this day and age - WoodstockIrish - 12:27pm 1/10/19
- Keep in mind too - WoodstockIrish - 12:03pm 1/10/19
- Bama and many top programs practice what you describe, but that is not gray shirting. - Irish_Demon - 5:13pm 1/9/19
- What exactly is a gray shirting practice? - WoodstockIrish - 3:04pm 1/9/19
- I don't have a good answer to that - Nigel Tufnel - 1:58pm 1/9/19
- Different sports, but bear with nme for a sec - 86domer - 12:09pm 1/9/19
- As I thought - Nigel Tufnel - 6:14pm 1/8/19
- Referencing what many have said on here for years [NT]
- WestCoastIrishFan - 5:09pm 1/8/19
- Werent there articles - WoodstockIrish - 3:37pm 1/8/19
- Scores over a 1000 are pretty good for football players, even Stanford has some of those. I think - THEISMANCARR - 4:38pm 1/8/19
- It is considerably lower than their peers - WoodstockIrish - 4:52pm 1/8/19
- Every school with high academic standards has football players with "considerably lower" scores than - Napoleon - 10:12am 1/9/19
- Understood - WoodstockIrish - 11:23am 1/9/19
- I don't agree that academic standards are "keeping us from being elite." - Napoleon - 11:32am 1/9/19
- Agree - 86domer - 12:24pm 1/9/19
- I don't agree that academic standards are "keeping us from being elite." - Napoleon - 11:32am 1/9/19
- Understood - WoodstockIrish - 11:23am 1/9/19
- I've been looking for a discussion such as this. I'm a facts guy and - smalltown - 7:45pm 1/8/19
- No doubt about that but I do think SAT scores are a bit overrated. I have seen more determined less - THEISMANCARR - 5:13pm 1/8/19
- Exactly, the point of a standardized test is because it's an easy way to quickly judge the masses - NDNEIL - 7:18am 1/9/19
- Don’t disagree - WoodstockIrish - 5:15pm 1/8/19
- Every school with high academic standards has football players with "considerably lower" scores than - Napoleon - 10:12am 1/9/19
- It is considerably lower than their peers - WoodstockIrish - 4:52pm 1/8/19
- not my question. curious about the Holtz years. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:53pm 1/8/19
- I highly doubt that. It would be an ESPN headline. [NT]
- lacan - 3:42pm 1/8/19
- There is little doubt that Admissions has been more "flexible" with Kelly - D2 - 4:34pm 1/8/19
- Scores over a 1000 are pretty good for football players, even Stanford has some of those. I think - THEISMANCARR - 4:38pm 1/8/19
- Disagree with your premise. Here are a few salient points - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 4:46pm 1/8/19