I like to argue using them. I live in Ohio and deal with condescending Tosu fans and was looking for facts to support the claims of academic handcuffs. I have an ally in the office, who uses the academic challenges to defend why ND does not get the elite athletes. I have always thought this to be true but in the absence of real evidence I was hesitant to suggest that myself. This tread suggests to let it go. I would love to see Notre Dame win a national championship in my lifetime, and I just can't put my finger on why we can't seem to get there. Watching the speed and talent of that game last night, I was really disheartened.