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Some good background

Author: Dinglewood (341 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:08 pm on Feb 7, 2019
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The link explains the 3 most commonly used rating systems FYI: https://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-football-recruiting/2013/2/5/3956800/rivals-scout-espn-247-star-rating-system-national-signing-day

Personally think the best use of this kind of info is to array it in a what that I've never seen done for ND or any other program on a every year basis.

-Think of these ratings as a measure of talent at a point in time ... how the potential develops or doesn't depends on a lot of factors. Remember as a FR in 1961 seeing a most informative but depressing medical documentary about how in the late 50s ND changed the stadium turf and wound up with a boatload of lower body injuries that were too often career ending (most would be operable by the 70s) ... something like this makes the initial class rating pretty much useless.

-See it more about talent coming in and talent going out with the object being to have these players stay in the program for their four playable years. While some positions have a really small sample (QB, kickers) others can be described in terms of what kind of talent we have there (like offensive lineman) and how much program experience each player has.

-Remember reading an article that showed what would happen under various if a team brought in a bunch of Jr college transfers but had a recruiting class of 11 (the best 11 CFB coming out of high school). Among other things the use of stars/player got a max of 55 vice 66 for a normal (22) "haul."

In the end think is about the talent and depth at each position that actually gets on the field.


Replies to: "Some good background"

  • Notre Dame going to finish 15th per the 247 composite ratings, just behind Ohio State. - Rocket91 - 8:55am 2/7/19 (22) [View All]
    • Good class. Really solid at DL and OL, which is most important - NDNEIL - 11:02pm 2/7/19
      • Good class, maybe, but far from elite. - NDQuebec - 10:12am 2/8/19
        • IMHO - NDNEIL - 9:14am 2/9/19
      • ^^This^^ [NT] - Nigel Tufnel - 8:42am 2/8/19
      • Agreed [NT] - Jerseymick - 11:29pm 2/7/19
    • Some good background - Dinglewood - 4:08pm 2/7/19
    • Most 5 stars are only interested in the easiest path to the big $. - Curly1918 - 10:17am 2/7/19
      • Where do the speedy 4 stars go then? [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:59pm 2/7/19
        • Well, 3 of them committed to ND last year. [NT] - Napoleon - 3:41pm 2/8/19
        • Speedy 4 stars receivers all believe they deserve 5 stars [NT] - Curly1918 - 9:28pm 2/7/19
    • On paper this is the worst class since 2012..coming off a 12-1 year.. Tennessee got a better class. - beefy78 - 9:42am 2/7/19
      • This year ND had the highest rating average for recruits since ‘13. - Napoleon - 3:23pm 2/8/19
      • The 2020 class is geared to be the payoff for 12-1 - Rocket91 - 8:50am 2/8/19
      • Most of the SEC did better. [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:56pm 2/7/19
        • Half did better. - Napoleon - 6:05pm 2/8/19
      • A couple things.. - Chrisb - 2:19pm 2/7/19
        • Aboslutely! Read this man's post! Completely on point! [NT] - tky21 - 9:39pm 2/7/19
      • New coaches at storied programs usually have really good classes in their first year [NT] - NDNEIL - 11:16am 2/7/19
      • Tennessee pays better. [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 11:02am 2/7/19
    • We took 22 with the top dog Kyle Hamilton running a 4.62. OSU only took in 17 total. No great speed [LINK] - whatsamataU - 9:03am 2/7/19
      • Team Speed is definitely a concern. - Aragoto - 10:51am 2/7/19
        • Team Speed means nothing if you dont use it. BK has had it..he doesnt use it. - Karamello - 1:31pm 2/9/19
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