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Who are you to tell anyone where to go or what to dream?

Author: Napoleon (5421 Posts - Joined: Apr 23, 2015)
Posted at 12:36 pm on Feb 10, 2019
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Who goes to the Naval Academy with a dream of playing in the NFL? Joe Cardona. And Alohi Gilman.

No kid should have to "suck it up" and stay at an institution he doesn't want to be at any longer. I don't begrudge any kid transferring for any reason. That's true of Gilman, Fields, Martell . . . anybody. It is absolutely stupid to argue that a kid who made a decision as a HS SR about where to further his education is somehow obliged to "suck it up" and stick with it even if he wants to go somewhere else. There is nothing wrong with any kid transferring to another school.

The issue isn't whether Gilman should or shouldn't have transferred. The issue I raise is that Gilman had as good a claim for a waiver as anyone, but he didn't get it. Seems wrong to me. When Gilman went to Navy, it was likely his best shot at the NFL. And the rules at the time gave him that opportunity. They changed the rules on him. (And so there is no confusion, it wasn't that he wouldn't have to fulfill his service commitment -- it was that he could have the service commitment deferred to take that NFL opportunity.) I honestly don't see how that is a less good reason than that of Fields or Patterson, etc. I don't have a problem with Fields or Patterson getting a waiver. Good for them. I just can't reconcile it with Gilman. I think Gilman got the short end. That's all. You don't think Gilman will play at the next level? So what? He thinks he can, and there is nothing wrong with him pursuing that dream. Just like so many other kids in college football.



Replies to: "Who are you to tell anyone where to go or what to dream?"

  • The NCAA ruled that Georgia QB transfer Justin Fields is eligible to play immediately at OSU. [NT] - Irishize - 5:17pm 2/8/19 (41) [View All]
    • An good explanation of the "rules" ... - Dinglewood - 4:03pm 2/9/19
    • Urban is gone. I don't care if this guy is there or not, Urban was the specialness, and that's gone - tky21 - 9:29pm 2/8/19
      • I suspect USC operatives already have contacted Urban. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:01am 2/9/19
        • Those ...bastards! [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:55am 2/11/19
        • Why wouldn't they? [NT] - Jerseymick - 8:17pm 2/9/19
    • Re: The NCAA ruled that Georgia QB transfer Justin Fields is eligible to play immediately at OSU. - NDSoxfan - 9:15pm 2/8/19
    • Yeah, anyone not transferring to ND is immediately eligible. - iairishcheeks - 5:20pm 2/8/19
      • Whiners [NT] - whatsamataU - 5:33pm 2/8/19
        • It is hard to reconcile Gilman’s denial with Fields and Patterson, for example. [NT] - Napoleon - 5:54pm 2/8/19
          • The rules changed the year after Gillman transferred [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 11:45am 2/9/19
            • But was announced before he made the decision to transfer. - Napoleon - 11:53am 2/9/19
              • More specifically, the NCAA transfer rules [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 1:44pm 2/9/19
                • No. I’m talking about the USNA rules. - Napoleon - 3:25pm 2/9/19
                  • perhaps he shouldn’t have gone to the Naval Academy if he wanted - WoodstockIrish - 11:10am 2/10/19
                    • Who is asking for your sympathy? No one cares about that. - Rocket91 - 12:55pm 2/11/19
                    • I don't know if you are being deliberately obtuse or just ignorant - D2 - 1:38pm 2/10/19
                    • That's ridiculous. - Napoleon - 11:41am 2/10/19
                      • You don’t go to the Naval Academy “because you have a dream of playing in - WoodstockIrish - 12:13pm 2/10/19
                        • Who are you to tell anyone where to go or what to dream? - Napoleon - 12:36pm 2/10/19
                          • Have you ever read Woodstock's posts? - Frankie V - 8:32am 2/11/19
                            • You are right. - Napoleon - 6:59pm 2/12/19
                              • Ineresting - WoodstockIrish - 8:27am 2/13/19
                            • God forbid - WoodstockIrish - 9:00am 2/11/19
                              • God forbid - Frankie V - 1:26pm 2/11/19
                                • Sorry - WoodstockIrish - 9:29pm 2/11/19
          • The new normal is a good lie - D2 - 6:16pm 2/8/19
            • great post. [NT] - oldirish - 11:34pm 2/12/19
            • Field’s statement basically admits his disingenuous “lie” [LINK] - CC72 - 8:40pm 2/8/19
              • It's just crazy why all these kids feel the need to issue a statement all the time. [NT] - oldirish - 11:36pm 2/12/19
            • Really good post! [NT] - Frankx - 6:32pm 2/8/19
            • Gilman’s reason was different. - Napoleon - 6:22pm 2/8/19
              • It’s a shame we didn’t recruit him harder in the beginning. [NT] - whatsamataU - 11:00am 2/9/19
                • He was a completely unheralded recruit who had no interest from any major programs. - Napoleon - 11:55am 2/9/19
              • Real end goal was basically the same - D2 - 6:40pm 2/8/19
                • End goal, yes. Agree. - Napoleon - 7:31pm 2/8/19
                  • Gilman is an honorable man. Fields is a liar who took advantage of a corrupt system. [NT] - D2 - 10:36pm 2/8/19
                  • It was in no way equitable [NT] - CC72 - 8:37pm 2/8/19
                • NCAA willing to accept lies benefiting tOSU- they should just eliminate all transfer restrictions [NT] - CC72 - 6:57pm 2/8/19
                  • Better yet, the power 5 conferences need to overthrow the NCAA, or just bolt - cubsfanin16 - 9:54pm 2/8/19
                    • Agree....but... - nc4theirish - 1:18pm 2/9/19
                      • One of the worst ran organizations Ive ever seen..IM a retired investigator - cubsfanin16 - 5:16pm 2/9/19
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