How do you know what the negotiations were like. Maybe he had to give that up to get some of the other concessions. Personally, I think he got a pretty good deal with the ACC. Yes, I would like to see the Orange available, but to have such a tie in to the ACC conference without having to join completely; I'm surprised that the ACC went for that. They were anxious to get the ND brand now and to set up for a possible full membership down the road.