I never met either, and no, from all I've read, I don't think Swarbrick is the greatest guy ever. But when the players seem to like Kelly, and when Quenton Nelson's father penned a letter that basically put NDn to shame, I'm happy with the current direction of the football program. Yes, I'd like to see more, as we all do, but given the enormous advantages the SEC has over everyone right now, a national championship will be very difficult to obtain.