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Worst OL recruiting of all time

Author: ndunabomber (6473 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:50 am on Jan 16, 2021
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I'll give Willingham credit for bringing in Sullivan and Harris in 2003, thanks to the momentum from 2002. Both proved to be long time starters and yes, even in the NFL, but never reached their potential until 2005-2006.

His 2004 class, though, had two O-line commitments in the way of John Kadous and Chauncey Incarnato, who never panned out anyways, since they left before the 2005 season even started. They weren't exactly highly sought-after recruits either, where Willingham's passive recruiting almost destroyed the program.

2005's line commits, Paul Duncan and Mike Turkovich, were both brought in by Charlie Weis. They at least turned out to be serviceable starters.

2007's miserable season would have been a rotten one for any coach out there. Even Nick Saban or Urban Meyer would have only gotten us to maybe a 5 or 6 win season with that roster, thanks to the absolute lack of true junior and senior athletes on that team. For that matter, when you put a bunch of still-raw freshmen and sophomores against well-developed teams the likes of that 2007 Michigan team, it was a recipe for absolute disaster.


Replies to: "Worst OL recruiting of all time"

  • Urban Meyer broke my heart. - koreasam - 4:10pm 1/14/21 (50) [View All]
    • Urban “played” Notre Dame to grease a bigger Florida contract. - conorlarkin - 8:36pm 1/16/21
      • Urban “played” Notre Dame to get a bigger Florida contract - he already had a contract with Florida - fedman - 1:13am 1/20/21
    • Meyer will be a trainwreck in the NFL - Fisher01 - 9:21pm 1/15/21
      • I'll take that bet. [NT] - MAS - 11:06am 1/16/21
      • Why? [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:11am 1/16/21
      • Depends on whether or not he tries to incorporate his college offense - ndunabomber - 9:43am 1/16/21
        • Lamar Jackson seems to be doing ok & he's much smaller than Newton or Tebow. [NT] - IrishChristopher - 4:31pm 1/16/21
          • He's also still young - ndunabomber - 5:39pm 1/16/21
      • What makes you say this? [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:02am 1/16/21
        • He's a sociopath whose motivational techniques will never fly with grown men - Fisher01 - 11:12am 1/16/21
          • You just mentioned two losers. List a couple of winners to compare him to since I would think - whatsamataU - 2:04pm 1/16/21
    • Willinghams recruiting was terrible, urban wasn't gonna come and Kevin white was awful [NT] - DonMiller - 10:35pm 1/14/21
      • I kind of go along with Jerome Bettis on this one. “ He wasn’t given a chance compared to Davie and - whatsamataU - 9:09am 1/15/21
        • White had to tell Tyrone to stop playing golf & to hit the recruiting trail. - IrishChristopher - 4:35pm 1/16/21
          • That was incredible. - jakers - 10:42am 1/17/21
        • Willingham brought in 3 offensive linemen in 2 years. - jakers - 10:01am 1/16/21
          • Worst OL recruiting of all time - ndunabomber - 11:50am 1/16/21
        • TW's coaching and recruiting set the program back a good 5-7 years. It took years for Weis and Kell - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:02pm 1/15/21
          • ^^ This - ndunabomber - 6:09pm 1/15/21
        • ND had to cut ties because of how far it had fallen so quickly but also how much worse it was going - NDNEIL - 1:06pm 1/15/21
        • Which is total hogwash - D2 - 12:24pm 1/15/21
        • Who wasn't given a chance? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 11:15am 1/15/21
    • I don't know why, but . . . - humbaba - 8:17pm 1/14/21
      • That is what I thought about Pete Carroll—but he surprised me. [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 1:21am 1/15/21
        • Flip side is Saban, Holtz, Spurrier... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:31am 1/15/21
          • Then there's Jimmy Johnson [NT] - MarkHarman - 5:38pm 1/15/21
            • Jimmy Johnson Part 2 (Dolphins) really stunk [NT] - IrishChristopher - 4:41pm 1/16/21
    • At least people have finally stopped posting about John Gruden - ND_in_DRO - 5:29pm 1/14/21
      • "Did you know his alarm clock plays the Notre Dame Victory March...?" [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 5:37pm 1/14/21
        • I'm retired so I don't have an alarm clock. [NT] - ELP - 12:54pm 1/15/21
          • and you get up too damn early?! [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:44pm 1/15/21
        • It hurts like hell that we got that close with 2 elite coaches. - jakers - 9:12pm 1/14/21
          • did Lou ever talk about his suggested successor even during his peak? [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:46pm 1/15/21
            • He wasn’t aware that was in the cards. [NT] - whatsamataU - 4:14pm 1/16/21
          • That was embarrassing. [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:15am 1/15/21
    • Urban didn't marry for love, he married for success. - Irishize - 4:51pm 1/14/21
      • I know a few that are that way [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:13am 1/15/21
      • Those damn nerdie football players at Notre Dame. [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:13pm 1/14/21
        • Watch out, Urbie, for the Revenge of the ND Nerds! [NT] - Irishize - 8:32pm 1/14/21
          • We're putting Jacksonville on the schedule? Probably no worse than Alabama... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:18am 1/15/21
    • I thought he left Florida because his heart was literally broken...and then Ohio State because of a - TakethetrainKnute - 4:23pm 1/14/21
      • Money can cure many an ill. Jacksonville sunshine beats Ohio.... [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:04pm 1/14/21
        • ND was Urb's dream job until it wasn't. He took his BG team on a campus tour once............ - ELP - 10:50pm 1/14/21
          • A long long time ago.... [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:08am 1/15/21
            • He left Fla & OSU because of health. Now he goes into the pressure cooker of the NFL? [NT] - ELP - 12:48pm 1/15/21
              • You don’t know what was negotiated in that pressure cooker. BIG BUCKS I’m sure which will relieve - whatsamataU - 4:21pm 1/16/21
              • Easier to conceal thuggery in the pros - ndunabomber - 11:52am 1/16/21
                • They didn't have to go to class at Ohio State or Florida either - IrishChristopher - 4:55pm 1/16/21
                  • Touche' - ndunabomber - 10:20am 1/18/21
                  • Exactly! - WoodstockIrish - 9:51pm 1/16/21
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