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Just not true in my experience. Folks view it as missteps for those teams and expect it from ND.
Author:
TakethetrainKnute
(31402 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:47 am on Feb 18, 2021
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Wish it were otherwise...but it’s not.
Replies to: "Just not true in my experience. Folks view it as missteps for those teams and expect it from ND."
With double digits wins 5 of the last 6 years will it be the norm now the next decade,?
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DonMiller
- 1:32pm 2/16/21
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The schedule in 2022 is absolutely brutal
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ND_in_DRO
- 11:00am 2/17/21
Kamikaze schedule courtesy of Daddy Swarbucks.
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Irishize
- 11:35am 2/17/21
12 & 0 to make the playoffs w/o a tie in.
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whatsamataU
- 6:37pm 2/16/21
I strongly disagree that ND needs to be undefeated to make the playoffs
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Turkish
- 9:52pm 2/16/21
2020 was an anomaly and impacts the data relative to ND quite a bit.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 7:48am 2/17/21
Yes - excluding 2020 actually makes NDs case stronger
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Turkish
- 9:01pm 2/17/21
Well, exclude 2020 and no one loss ND team has made the BCS or CFP...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 9:51am 2/18/21
You're completely missing the point here, though, by focusing only on ND
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Turkish
- 12:15pm 2/18/21
Your point above is that you "strongly disagree that ND needs to be undefeated to make the playoffs"
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TakethetrainKnute
- 7:10am 2/19/21
I also disagree if we look at 2020 ONLY, that ND would have missed playoffs vs. the field
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Turkish
- 12:23pm 2/18/21
Because of Covid (cancellations and staggered conference starts), I don't think 2020 played out as
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TakethetrainKnute
- 3:54pm 2/18/21
There is a point in that, though . . . right?
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Napoleon
- 10:34am 2/21/21
I think that is a bigger issue for ND fan than outside observers.
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Napoleon
- 9:31am 2/17/21
Not really. When they ( sports writers have talked about the ND it was because the Tigers were
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whatsamataU
- 6:36pm 2/17/21
Not true. That game was widely regarded as a big win for ND.
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Napoleon
- 11:06pm 2/17/21
In your mind it was
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WoodstockIrish
- 9:03pm 2/18/21
It was erased by the severity of the later beatdown when Clemson had their full compliment...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 6:45am 2/18/21
Perhaps, but that’s a different issue.
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Napoleon
- 7:36am 2/18/21
Yes it was
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WoodstockIrish
- 9:04pm 2/18/21
But that isn't true.
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Napoleon
- 10:27am 2/21/21
Understood
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WoodstockIrish
- 7:00pm 2/21/21
Differences of opinion are fine.
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Napoleon
- 8:17pm 2/21/21
It was at the time...and was enough to get them into the CFP...aided by the strange year.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 10:26am 2/18/21
Not in my opinion...
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TakethetrainKnute
- 12:29pm 2/17/21
Oklahoma keeps making it despite 2 decades of futility
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Turkish
- 9:03pm 2/17/21
They keep going because they win their conference and in 2018 they went to double OT
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TakethetrainKnute
- 5:53am 2/19/21
Well, I would say that the closest thing we have to a test case is this past season.
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Napoleon
- 2:30pm 2/17/21
Do you have friends who attended other schools. Not one took ND and the points. Why? Because
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PBHangingChad
- 8:17pm 2/17/21
Bama was a historically great team, and beat down OSU even worse than it did ND.
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Napoleon
- 11:09pm 2/17/21
Talk about arguments that only ND fans care about. The fact that the champion crushed their opponent
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TakethetrainKnute
- 6:54am 2/18/21
TakeTrain, I feel like you're arguing on a completely different point - whether ND has what it takes
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Turkish
- 12:29pm 2/18/21
You may feel that but you'd be wrong. I am talking specifically about a 1 loss ND team making the
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TakethetrainKnute
- 3:49pm 2/18/21
It resonates with every non-ND fan I’ve ever talked to.
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Napoleon
- 7:48am 2/18/21
Just not true in my experience. Folks view it as missteps for those teams and expect it from ND.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 9:47am 2/18/21
I guess that is what it comes down to. Very different experiences.
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Napoleon
- 10:07am 2/18/21
Agree to disagree. Feel this past season is an outlier and not representative of much of anything.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 3:45pm 2/17/21
Sure. You might be right. Just my sense of things.
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Napoleon
- 3:53pm 2/17/21
Can agree there. Would help immensely...,.
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TakethetrainKnute
- 4:13pm 2/17/21
Nice summary of the data. I would go as far as saying a 1 loss ND will always make it in unless
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Shadow_of_the_Dome
- 10:17pm 2/16/21
Thanks! Agree they'd have a very good chance/argument, but I wouldn't guarantee it
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Turkish
- 10:29pm 2/16/21
12 and 0, or we don't go!
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Irishize
- 8:20pm 2/16/21
Unless Kelly recruits an elite QB prospect next year expect a blow out in the playoffs
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holybull101
- 8:32pm 2/16/21
Perfect record as Don would say.
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whatsamataU
- 9:02am 2/17/21
Yes, it should be. We are seeing now that we should never, ever been as bad as we were
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tky21
- 4:25pm 2/16/21
Without Ian "Playoff Participant" Book, I say no.
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iairishcheeks
- 3:40pm 2/16/21
I think so but the key will still be making the playoffs. We are solidly in the number 4 to 8 range
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THEISMANCARR
- 2:23pm 2/16/21
The only reason UGA isn’t up there with Bama is coaching. They recruit in the zone we need to be in.
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whatsamataU
- 6:36pm 2/16/21
I agree with you that UGA underperforms with what they recruit but I disagree with where
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THEISMANCARR
- 9:22pm 2/16/21
They beat us twice, but both games were very close.
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Turkish
- 10:23pm 2/16/21
UM recruits with us or above us most of the time and is another coaching situation that currently
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whatsamataU
- 9:08am 2/17/21
I would think so. Hopefully, recruiting will keep getting better, which supports consistency and
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michiganirish
- 2:05pm 2/16/21
We need top 5 recruiting year in year out.
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whatsamataU
- 6:31pm 2/16/21