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Kelly also seems to run a more west-coast like spread. Mostly lateral very little vertical and very

Author: oldirish (4921 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)
Posted at 8:20 pm on Apr 1, 2021
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little RPO. It's really hard to even call it the spread because it's very predictable and still mostly up the middle / off center.

Kelly's downfall on O is he doesn't get the ball in playmaker's hands and it seems even with various offensive coordinators they pre-select on a weekly basis who they are going to feed the ball come hell or high water. While it sounds good in theory, doing this leaves no room to take what the defense gives you, and over the last decade, this strategy has more often than not left ND very one-dimensional on the offensive side of the ball.

Kelly is just not as creative on offense as he was hyped to be, and his model is stuck in the past. Saban was the same way but changed just after the true spread took over. He has continued to dominated CFB by CHANGING with the game, not telling the game to F'off this is how I'm going to do it... a'la the Brian Kelly way. 10 wins a year and just almost... that is good for modern day ND, but definitely not good enough to win the damn thing in today's game. If you can't score at will you can't win in today's college game. Just facts. Doesn't matter how much wishful thinking you put on D or running the ball. The goal is to put it in the endzone and today that means getting your talent the ball in space and letting them play. Kelly is way to technical for this level of football when it comes to that. There is no "right" way to play the game in CFB. Take ball, put it in endzone... score points... win.

QBs matter but in college not so much. You need an athlete that can run and be accurate more often than not. Hence OSU success will not putting out a QB worth a dang. Kelly isn't paid to put QBs in the NFL. He's paid to win college football games and NCs. That requires a QB that can play the game on the CFB level, not the NFL level. See Auburn under Nick Marshall when they went to the NC game. Terrible QB, converted safety but he ran Malzhan's offense extremely well and Malzhan runs more of an Oregon-style spread which is predicated on run first, at least in their hayday under Chip Kellly.


Replies to: "Kelly also seems to run a more west-coast like spread. Mostly lateral very little vertical and very"

  • Concerning our offensive style and QB play and that of OSU. - tky21 - 11:00pm 3/31/21 (31) [View All]
    • The offense is a reflection of the HC and OC. [LINK] - Aragoto - 12:22pm 4/1/21
      • Or the AD, Alvarez sets the identity for the Wisconsin program and hires accordingly [NT] - holybull101 - 12:44pm 4/1/21
        • Or the athletes recruited, or the school restrictions, or the degrees offered, or ... But I do - whatsamataU - 1:04pm 4/1/21
        • rees could have been thrown out of school as an undergrad. [NT] [LINK] - Aragoto - 12:57pm 4/1/21
          • Clearly, Carlo Calabrese's "people" took care of him... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 3:31pm 4/1/21
            • Tom has never done anything to suggest he’s an elite OC or QB developer. - Aragoto - 7:02pm 4/1/21
              • U need a time out [NT] - ColeyO - 7:48pm 4/1/21
                • For telling the truth? [NT] - Aragoto - 8:35am 4/2/21
    • Harsh reality, ND isn’t developing, scheming, and recruiting well enough at the QB position - NDNEIL - 9:42am 4/1/21
      • I believe we have our quarterback and great receivers. We can win it all. We do need to improve in - michiganirish - 5:48pm 4/1/21
        • Recruiting at ND has been pretty steller relatively speaking over Kelly's tenure. Roster management - oldirish - 8:21pm 4/1/21
          • Stellar? - AlbanyIRISH - 9:20am 4/2/21
            • Yep. Relative to the talent that was coming to ND before BK; it's stellar indeed. [NT] - oldirish - 10:22pm 4/3/21
          • I don't agree. We have been lacking at defensive end and defensive line is only now steady, but not - michiganirish - 10:14pm 4/1/21
            • Why does everyone over look the word RELATIVE. ND was piss poor talent wise pre-Kelly. Terrible for - oldirish - 10:27pm 4/3/21
      • Nor at WR. [NT] - Aragoto - 12:06pm 4/1/21
        • I don’t really subscribe to that theory - NDNEIL - 8:54am 4/3/21
      • I would argue that they are not recruiting the QB's. - BaronVonZemo - 11:44am 4/1/21
      • . [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:38am 4/1/21
      • Agreed - ND_in_DRO - 11:22am 4/1/21
        • I think that's the problem, Kelly has been getting good QB recruits, and everyone's hoping they - holybull101 - 12:50pm 4/1/21
    • Meyer's entire offense is built on a #'s advantage. His inside zone read sucks in the FS which - WestCoastIrishFan - 9:03am 4/1/21
      • Kelly also seems to run a more west-coast like spread. Mostly lateral very little vertical and very - oldirish - 8:20pm 4/1/21
    • Olave & Wilson or Smith Waddle & Metchie? We need elite WRs. Smith's most explosive plays were - ND521 - 3:12am 4/1/21
      • It’s not about the receivers. [NT] - NDNEIL - 9:37am 4/1/21
        • This board tends to wish for what they don't have. The overall offensive strategy doesn't match what - oldirish - 8:23pm 4/1/21
        • I would love to have a Will Fuller every year [NT] - holybull101 - 2:36pm 4/1/21
      • We've recruited guys much higher ranked than Olave. And higher than Smith and Metchie. - NDavenue - 7:31am 4/1/21
        • Last year? Availability of our best talent - ndunabomber - 11:52am 4/1/21
          • Well sure. That's not a recruiting/talent issue though. - NDavenue - 12:08pm 4/1/21
        • Sure, though only Johnson was a Wilson, Waddle or Smith level recruit & he needs to hump his shit or - ND521 - 11:20am 4/1/21
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