It was for our local Catholic grade school to help keep it going. Both were tremendous. Both didn't charge one penny. Both told stories, signed, and took pictures until the last guest was satisfied. I personally talked to both Allen and Rudy and both talked to me like I was an old friend. I do want to add Zorich, Tyrone Willingham, and Reggie Brooks to that list of really fan friendly people. Anyway, I can only go by my personal experience with Rudy. The rest is his deal.