However there is also no reason to keep bringing this up, because Buchner IS injured and despite all the nonsense that's said about him around here one thing that definitely rings true is his propensity for injuries.
Also, I don't want to take anything away from Pyne, he did what he did and what he did was pretty darn good.
Replies to: "Exactly, and there's no reason to think Buchner wouldn't have been as successful vs UNC's defense.."
- IF Buchner would not have gotten hurt, would he have started vs. NC ? [NT]
- OklahomaIrishman - 9:06am 9/26/22
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- 1-2 probably yes, 0-3 no. [NT] - ND521 - 3:37pm 9/26/22
- You gotta ask yourself ... would we have beaten Cal with a Buchner led offense? - GaSubwayIrish - 3:10pm 9/26/22
- We have no way of knowing the answer - wrdomerson - 3:16pm 9/27/22
- Yes. Probably wouldn't have been close. [NT] - tky21 - 7:15am 9/27/22
- We would have beaten them easier than we did. [NT]
- THEISMANCARR - 7:04pm 9/26/22
- Exactly, and there's no reason to think Buchner wouldn't have been as successful vs UNC's defense.. - Chrisb - 7:57pm 9/26/22
- Agree 100%, but I don't like the way Buchner is getting hammered here. Only reason I said something. [NT]
- THEISMANCARR - 6:43pm 9/27/22
- And just like you have an opinion so do we - WoodstockIrish - 8:13am 9/28/22
- Correct. Pyne is the guy we have right now and we support him. [NT] - Frank L - 8:26pm 9/26/22
- Agree 100%, but I don't like the way Buchner is getting hammered here. Only reason I said something. [NT]
- THEISMANCARR - 6:43pm 9/27/22
- Exactly, and there's no reason to think Buchner wouldn't have been as successful vs UNC's defense.. - Chrisb - 7:57pm 9/26/22
- Yes - ndunabomber - 12:05pm 9/26/22
- Definitely. It's clear that the staff (both last year and this year) have a far higher opinion of - tky21 - 11:49am 9/26/22
- More Upside - IdahoIrish - 11:58am 9/26/22
- What evidence do you have that he’s any better than Hendrix or Holiday? [NT] - holybull101 - 10:37pm 9/26/22
- What upside? - WoodstockIrish - 4:39pm 9/26/22
- So much wrong here with this logic. - oldirish - 3:52pm 9/26/22
- You're smart enough to see that he had no help in those first two games. Protection was horrible and - THEISMANCARR - 7:06pm 9/26/22
- Is it that he "wasn't allowed" or that "he couldn't" I see this excuse thrown around a lot. - oldirish - 10:07pm 9/26/22
- Why does nobody understand the concept of a QB that can complete passes changes how a defense attack - GaSubwayIrish - 10:24pm 9/26/22
- He still only completed 50ish% of his passes rendering the offense one dimensional - GaSubwayIrish - 9:19pm 9/26/22
- Wimbush / Golson 2.0 like clockwork. [NT] - oldirish - 10:08pm 9/26/22
- Is it that he "wasn't allowed" or that "he couldn't" I see this excuse thrown around a lot. - oldirish - 10:07pm 9/26/22
- You're smart enough to see that he had no help in those first two games. Protection was horrible and - THEISMANCARR - 7:06pm 9/26/22
- Jurko was never the answer [NT] - ColeyO - 12:05pm 9/26/22
- More Upside - IdahoIrish - 11:58am 9/26/22
- Unfortunately [NT]
- WoodstockIrish - 9:56am 9/26/22
- Very unfortantely [NT] - oldirish - 10:20am 9/26/22
- of course [NT] - DonMiller - 9:40am 9/26/22
- Would he have beaten Cal in your hypothetical? [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 9:26am 9/26/22
- Even had he lost to Cal, they'd have started Buchner. They don't have a high opinion of Pyne. [NT]
- tky21 - 11:50am 9/26/22
- Disagree, that would have been a must win for Buchner. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 7:08pm 9/26/22
- Sorry, don't believe that. Freeman would have been in a very tough place at 0-4, 0-3 on the season. [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 12:08pm 9/26/22
- That doesn't mean bench the starting QB. This team (and QB) goes as the OL goes. [NT]
- tky21 - 1:53pm 9/26/22
- May not mean it...but, in my humble opinion, that is what would have happened. [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 1:58pm 9/26/22
- The only way it is as bad as the first two games is if the OL played that bad. The way the OL - tky21 - 2:49pm 9/26/22
- Or did the OL play better because the box wasn't stacked to stop the run? - GaSubwayIrish - 3:13pm 9/26/22
- So a less mobile QB made the opposing team stack the box less? That makes no sense. Nothing about - tky21 - 3:47pm 9/26/22
- I’m not saying the OL didn’t improve. But OSU obviously game planned to stop Buchner and ND from - GaSubwayIrish - 9:12pm 9/26/22
- Why would you not game-plan to stop a running QB? [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 9:09pm 9/26/22
- 55% passing versus 70% passing. Makes a defense change a little. [NT]
- GaSubwayIrish - 9:07pm 9/26/22
- Pyne's downfield passing isn't scaring anybody. The OL is getting better and better. Rees calling - tky21 - 10:07pm 9/26/22
- It’s all about keeping a defense honest. OSU and Marshall didn’t respect that with Buchner in. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:25pm 9/26/22
- * [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:25pm 9/26/22
- * [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:25pm 9/26/22
- Just need the threat. Don’t have to scare. Team is improving as is Rees. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:19pm 9/26/22
- Pyne's downfield passing isn't scaring anybody. The OL is getting better and better. Rees calling - tky21 - 10:07pm 9/26/22
- So a less mobile QB made the opposing team stack the box less? That makes no sense. Nothing about - tky21 - 3:47pm 9/26/22
- Or did the OL play better because the box wasn't stacked to stop the run? - GaSubwayIrish - 3:13pm 9/26/22
- The only way it is as bad as the first two games is if the OL played that bad. The way the OL - tky21 - 2:49pm 9/26/22
- May not mean it...but, in my humble opinion, that is what would have happened. [NT]
- TakethetrainKnute - 1:58pm 9/26/22
- That doesn't mean bench the starting QB. This team (and QB) goes as the OL goes. [NT]
- tky21 - 1:53pm 9/26/22
- No [NT]
- OklahomaIrishman - 9:45am 9/26/22
- Then, no. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:54am 9/26/22
- Even had he lost to Cal, they'd have started Buchner. They don't have a high opinion of Pyne. [NT]
- tky21 - 11:50am 9/26/22