I’m not saying the OL didn’t improve. But OSU obviously game planned to stop Buchner and ND from

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I’m not saying the OL didn’t improve. But OSU obviously game planned to stop Buchner and ND from

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Posted at 9:12 pm on Sep 26, 2022

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running.

On the flip side, ND was rushing with success versus dime packages for UNC.

Regardless of how good or bad a defense is or how good or bad an OL is, the strategies deployed against ND were different for Buchner versus Pyne.

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Replies to: "I’m not saying the OL didn’t improve. But OSU obviously game planned to stop Buchner and ND from"

IF Buchner would not have gotten hurt, would he have started vs. NC ? [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 9:06am 9/26/22 (43) [View All]
- 1-2 probably yes, 0-3 no. [NT] - ND521 - 3:37pm 9/26/22
- You gotta ask yourself ... would we have beaten Cal with a Buchner led offense? - GaSubwayIrish - 3:10pm 9/26/22
  - We have no way of knowing the answer - wrdomerson - 3:16pm 9/27/22
  - Yes. Probably wouldn't have been close. [NT] - tky21 - 7:15am 9/27/22
  - We would have beaten them easier than we did. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 7:04pm 9/26/22
    - Exactly, and there's no reason to think Buchner wouldn't have been as successful vs UNC's defense.. - Chrisb - 7:57pm 9/26/22
      - Agree 100%, but I don't like the way Buchner is getting hammered here. Only reason I said something. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 6:43pm 9/27/22
        And just like you have an opinion so do we - WoodstockIrish - 8:13am 9/28/22
      - Correct. Pyne is the guy we have right now and we support him. [NT] - Frank L - 8:26pm 9/26/22
- Yes - ndunabomber - 12:05pm 9/26/22
- Definitely. It's clear that the staff (both last year and this year) have a far higher opinion of - tky21 - 11:49am 9/26/22
  - More Upside - IdahoIrish - 11:58am 9/26/22
    - What evidence do you have that he’s any better than Hendrix or Holiday? [NT] - holybull101 - 10:37pm 9/26/22
    - What upside? - WoodstockIrish - 4:39pm 9/26/22
    - So much wrong here with this logic. - oldirish - 3:52pm 9/26/22
      - You're smart enough to see that he had no help in those first two games. Protection was horrible and - THEISMANCARR - 7:06pm 9/26/22
        Is it that he "wasn't allowed" or that "he couldn't" I see this excuse thrown around a lot. - oldirish - 10:07pm 9/26/22
        Why does nobody understand the concept of a QB that can complete passes changes how a defense attack - GaSubwayIrish - 10:24pm 9/26/22
        
        He still only completed 50ish% of his passes rendering the offense one dimensional - GaSubwayIrish - 9:19pm 9/26/22
        Wimbush / Golson 2.0 like clockwork. [NT] - oldirish - 10:08pm 9/26/22
    - Jurko was never the answer [NT] - ColeyO - 12:05pm 9/26/22
- Unfortunately [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 9:56am 9/26/22
  - Very unfortantely [NT] - oldirish - 10:20am 9/26/22
- of course [NT] - DonMiller - 9:40am 9/26/22
- Would he have beaten Cal in your hypothetical? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:26am 9/26/22
  - Even had he lost to Cal, they'd have started Buchner. They don't have a high opinion of Pyne. [NT] - tky21 - 11:50am 9/26/22
    - Disagree, that would have been a must win for Buchner. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 7:08pm 9/26/22
    - Sorry, don't believe that. Freeman would have been in a very tough place at 0-4, 0-3 on the season. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:08pm 9/26/22
      - That doesn't mean bench the starting QB. This team (and QB) goes as the OL goes. [NT] - tky21 - 1:53pm 9/26/22
        May not mean it...but, in my humble opinion, that is what would have happened. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 1:58pm 9/26/22
        The only way it is as bad as the first two games is if the OL played that bad. The way the OL - tky21 - 2:49pm 9/26/22
        Or did the OL play better because the box wasn't stacked to stop the run? - GaSubwayIrish - 3:13pm 9/26/22
        So a less mobile QB made the opposing team stack the box less? That makes no sense. Nothing about - tky21 - 3:47pm 9/26/22
        I’m not saying the OL didn’t improve. But OSU obviously game planned to stop Buchner and ND from - GaSubwayIrish - 9:12pm 9/26/22
        
        Why would you not game-plan to stop a running QB? [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 9:09pm 9/26/22
        
        55% passing versus 70% passing. Makes a defense change a little. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 9:07pm 9/26/22
        Pyne's downfield passing isn't scaring anybody. The OL is getting better and better. Rees calling - tky21 - 10:07pm 9/26/22
        It’s all about keeping a defense honest. OSU and Marshall didn’t respect that with Buchner in. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:25pm 9/26/22
        
        * [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:25pm 9/26/22
        
        * [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:25pm 9/26/22
        
        Just need the threat. Don’t have to scare. Team is improving as is Rees. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:19pm 9/26/22
  - No [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 9:45am 9/26/22
    - Then, no. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:54am 9/26/22