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What evidence do you have that ND WRs are capable of catching "mostly inaccurate" passes ....

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)
Posted at 9:49 am on Sep 29, 2022
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This board knows well enough that ND WRs have a hard time just getting open much less making a QB look good (except Mayer). The point of competition percentage is this ... if a QB is consistently inaccurate, as you guys say Pyne is, then how can you reasonably expect WRs to catch those balls enough so that the QBs completion percentage is that of someone who would be considered accurate? If you throw 25 balls that are mostly inaccurate how can you expect a high completion percentage?

And to the "glorified handoff" argument. Let's suppose every pass was completed 5 yards beyond the LOS. The QB starts 5 yards BEHIND the LOS prior to receiving the snap. Maybe he takes 1 or 2 steps back after getting the ball. If he only throws the ball in a straight line directly in from of him to a WR 5 yards beyond the LOS then he threw the ball 10-12 yards in reality. As soon as those "5 yard completions" start happening outside the hashes then those passes become 15-25 yard efforts from where the QB is actually standing. Accuracy doesn't not equal perfection. Accuracy does not require that a pass must hit a receiver without breaking his stride and is between the numbers. That's called perfection. Accuracy is consistently putting something on a target where you intended to put it. The target is the receiver which also includes his catching radius. There are also factors like defenders and where they are. Sometimes you can't lead a WR too much. Sometimes you have to throw the ball slightly behind to force them to slow down so the ball won't be intercepted.

Nobody her can argue that a 70% completion percentage is a very good number. Much like hitting .300 in baseball. You can't convince me that a QB, who is mostly inaccurate, would end up completing 70% of his passes. Especially considering how ND WRs have underperformed in recent years.


Replies to: "What evidence do you have that ND WRs are capable of catching "mostly inaccurate" passes ...."

  • Any thoughts on how accurate Pyne will be this weekend? [NT] - oldirish - 6:38pm 9/28/22 (33) [View All]
    • Is he the Wheels Up guest on Game Day? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:38am 9/29/22
    • He won’t even see the field. [NT] - MuskyTommy - 9:16pm 9/28/22
      • Son, that right there is effin funny. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 2:06pm 9/29/22
      • This is a good one. Nice work here! [NT] - oldirish - 9:48pm 9/28/22
    • 0-0 [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:59pm 9/28/22
    • Are we talking about accuracy of his downfield passes or do you mean completion percentage? - tky21 - 8:40pm 9/28/22
      • Sometimes the QB has to throw what looks like is a behind the receiver pass, if the defender coming - THEISMANCARR - 5:55pm 9/29/22
        • Yep. [NT] - oldirish - 9:34pm 9/29/22
      • You can't be mostly inaccurate and expect to complete 70% of your passes though. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 9:53am 9/29/22
      • Solve the riddle. Which one leads to more Wins? [NT] - oldirish - 9:48pm 9/28/22
        • Throwing accuracy and completion percentage are totally different things but both necessary to win. [NT] - tky21 - 7:59am 9/29/22
          • Proving that you can teach an old dog new tricks. You're starting to get it. Nice. [NT] - oldirish - 10:00am 9/29/22
          • This ^^^ [NT] - Chrisb - 9:35am 9/29/22
        • Tim Tebow won a lot of games, but he wasn't an accurate passer... - Chrisb - 11:15pm 9/28/22
          • Comparing Pyne to Tebow is apples to oranges ... Buchner to Tebow though? - GaSubwayIrish - 10:47am 9/29/22
          • Tebow won A LOT... and was super inaccurate. It's called leadership. It's 9 tenths of the battle. [NT] - oldirish - 10:21am 9/29/22
          • Hmmm??? You're the one harping on accuracy. This is subj is pretty much the point of GaSubwayIrish. - oldirish - 10:01am 9/29/22
          • On top of the below argument ... it happened again in the next game. Go figure. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 9:51am 9/29/22
            • I can't take anyone seriously on "inaccurate" when Pyne sticks multiple throws in a window only open - oldirish - 10:17am 9/29/22
              • Don't forget that the ball must hit him in the numbers in stride to qualify as accurate [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 10:31am 9/29/22
                • Catch radius is a topic discussed often... said no one ever. [NT] - oldirish - 12:08pm 9/29/22
          • What evidence do you have that ND WRs are capable of catching "mostly inaccurate" passes .... - GaSubwayIrish - 9:49am 9/29/22
            • Very Very ACCURATE assessment [NT] - oldirish - 10:20am 9/29/22
            • No one complained when Golson tied a record and set an ND record doing this. [NT] - oldirish - 10:19am 9/29/22
          • There was actually a time when you took him seriously? - NDavenue - 6:07am 9/29/22
            • lol. You still can't see. Hard to claim Book wasn't the answer and Pyne is not better for this O. [NT] - oldirish - 10:07am 9/29/22
            • Delete [NT] - NDavenue - 6:37am 9/29/22
    • I bet he won’t throw any incompletions [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 7:06pm 9/28/22
      • Seems like you think he's gonna be pretty accurate then? ;) [NT] - oldirish - 9:49pm 9/28/22
      • My guess is he scores. [NT] - hipND - 7:28pm 9/28/22
        • Shouldn’t the QB at ND get laid every night? Seems like a perk of the job. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:10pm 9/28/22
          • Making room in the Heisman House for Drew. [NT] - ELP - 9:59am 9/29/22
            • Next to Powlus' two rooms? [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 12:43pm 9/29/22
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