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He's capable of getting us to top 10 contention

Author: ndunabomber (4018 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:59 am on Oct 1, 2022
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It's the same thing I said about Ian Book.

He has the skills and ability to get us to a top 10 finish. He can make short and some medium range throws decently with good pass protection, and has reasonably good mobility. Thus about 75% of the playbook is available with his being at the helm.

I have yet to see his true downfield passing abilities, though. Being able to run 75% of the playbook will beat the lesser teams, and occasionally let you beat the top teams, but to beat the top teams on a regular basis, you need to be able to run the whole playbook.

With ian Book at the helm, this was a recurring problem against teams like Georgia, Clemson, and Alabama. Short and medium range throws were the limit to what he could do, so they would squat in a medium zone, and with that kind of defensive talent, were able to shut down our offense.

It was even worse with Tommy Rees at the helm, where about 1/3rd of the playbook was available, since he couldn't make a medium range throw with any kind of zip or reliability. Teams simply squatted in a short zone, and took away the short passing game.

It's basically the same offensive system as it has been for the last dozen years, where to be optimally run, your QB has to be able to stretch the field vertically. Golson and Kizer were able to do that, but nobody else has proven that they can. Crist might have been able to, but Brian Kelly kept insisting on turning him into a dink 'n dunk QB.


Replies to: "He's capable of getting us to top 10 contention"

  • Drew Pyne: Rivals 4-star recruit and 7th-ranked pro-style QB in 2020 - MarkHarman - 7:47pm 9/30/22 (27) [View All]
    • He's capable of getting us to top 10 contention - ndunabomber - 11:59am 10/1/22
      • Agreed. And the whole Buchner-Pyne debate had as an aspect of it the hope that Buchner's - tky21 - 10:24pm 10/1/22
      • Book's deep-ball accuracy was admittedly abysmal - MarkHarman - 12:50pm 10/1/22
        • On the other hand we saw Buchner last year could hit the deep ball but this year with little - THEISMANCARR - 11:33am 10/2/22
          • If you watch that play again - wrdomerson - 4:07pm 10/2/22
    • Pyne seems capable of leading ND to a playoff berth where ND gets boat raced by Alabama, et. al. - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 8:17am 10/1/22
      • Exactly. In the Ian Book mold but I don't think he quite has the athleticism of Book. But a winner. [NT] - tky21 - 10:08pm 10/1/22
    • Reminds me of Montana, when Joe was a Sophomore [NT] - DonMiller - 9:48pm 9/30/22
      • Joe is 66. That’s about right.:) [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:42pm 9/30/22
        • I gotta stop watching vintage Utube vids... - ripperduck - 11:05am 10/1/22
    • He played like it against NC. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:39pm 9/30/22
      • First time he's really had a shot. He will be pleasant surprise [NT] - ColeyO - 9:41pm 9/30/22
        • Hope so, but the running threat really has to be there for him to be successful. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:12pm 9/30/22
    • Why do about 10 guys on this board not like Pyne? That's my question. [NT] - oldirish - 9:32pm 9/30/22
      • I think “we” have used up our allotted amount of Pyne related posts. [NT] - GaSubwayIrish - 12:20pm 10/1/22
      • They can't stop needling him. Those guys are saps... [NT] - ripperduck - 11:07am 10/1/22
      • Most, if not all of Irish Nation want Drew to succeed. - ELP - 8:29am 10/1/22
        • all the more reason to have a QB that makes the TEAM better since few have THE flashy QB and there - oldirish - 9:45pm 10/1/22
        • Your kind of proving my point - MarkHarman - 12:48pm 10/1/22
          • Not sure about the vision. On the interception he threw in the Marshall game Tyree was open on the - THEISMANCARR - 12:55pm 10/2/22
          • While it does apply that all QBs need help to be successful, some have more height, size, speed, arm - tky21 - 10:04pm 10/1/22
            • Very good response. There are very few QBs that can win a national championship by themselves. Even - THEISMANCARR - 1:01pm 10/2/22
      • he's to shot [NT] - Hank the Tank - 10:40pm 9/30/22
    • You are accurate sir. [NT] - oldirish - 9:22pm 9/30/22
    • pyne is fyne. [NT] - und67 - 9:20pm 9/30/22
    • I think he going to do fine. Lots of guys have the - ColeyO - 9:12pm 9/30/22
      • You're right about the red ass. We keep reliving this story. Groundhog day. [NT] - oldirish - 9:23pm 9/30/22
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