I don't get the love for Buchner. Fact is that neither are very good.

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I don't get the love for Buchner. Fact is that neither are very good.

Author: NDQuebec (2025 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:32 am on Nov 24, 2022

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Buchner has never shown much so far, not last year, nor this year in his first two games. If I had to choose, I prefer Pyne. Neither can pass adequately but at least Pyne is more careful with the ball.

Replies to: "I don't get the love for Buchner. Fact is that neither are very good."

W Marcus Freeman Leaves Door Open For Tyler Buchner Return In Notre Dame Bowl Game, [NT] [LINK] - whatsamataU - 12:33pm 11/23/22 (57) [View All]
- If Buchner can play, I think the coaches go with him in a heartbeat. That they are looking for a tr - tky21 - 8:22pm 11/23/22
  - I don't get the love for Buchner. Fact is that neither are very good. - NDQuebec - 7:32am 11/24/22
    - Tend to agree. Neither are good. Haven’t seen enough of Buchner to say which is worse. [NT] - Frank L - 5:59pm 11/24/22
    - Buchner is our starting QB. Coaches clearly think he is far better, not only running but - tky21 - 9:19am 11/24/22
      - Correction, Buchner 'was' the starter, now Pyne 'is' the starter.. - Chrisb - 1:26pm 11/24/22
        No, Buchner is our starting QB (or QB1 if you'd rather) but is injured. The backup (Pyne) starts in - tky21 - 4:00pm 11/24/22
        You are so far off the mark here, it's pointless even trying to reason with you. - Chrisb - 7:40pm 11/24/22
        No, I'm not. If your QB1 gets healthy and is a major upgrade, you play him. Shouldn't be a - tky21 - 7:56pm 11/24/22
        "As for next year, I'm in favor of them competing." That's what I've been saying the whole damn time - Chrisb - 10:13pm 11/24/22
    - Thank you - WoodstockIrish - 8:40am 11/24/22
      - I agree 100% that our QB's are poor, overall. But Buchner is far better. He is not so short so he - tky21 - 9:22am 11/24/22
      - Amen. The level of delirium and excuses is mindboggling. I'm not even sure if the supporters watch - oldirish - 8:49am 11/24/22
        Delirium is thinking Pyne is anything but a very poor FBS QB. Everyone sees it. It's obvious. [NT] - tky21 - 9:28am 11/24/22
        8-1 with a win over #4. That's all I can say about that. [NT] - oldirish - 10:02pm 11/24/22
        
        Delirium is constantly proclaiming Buchner like the second coming of John Elway - WoodstockIrish - 8:09pm 11/24/22
        Thank you. Just a general reminder. This John Elway we have is 0-2. Just a reminder. [NT] - oldirish - 10:03pm 11/24/22
- What a slap in the face for Pyne - WoodstockIrish - 12:44pm 11/23/22
  - What he's proven to the coaches is enough for me. He's the starting QB. He should play if healthy. [NT] - tky21 - 9:56am 11/24/22
    - What has he proven? - WoodstockIrish - 10:08pm 11/25/22
  - Re: What a slap in the face for Pyne - skiptomylou - 8:07pm 11/23/22
  - Brilliant! Now defenses have to prepare for two QBs who can’t throw accurately! [NT] - LanceManion - 7:46pm 11/23/22
  - Maybe they’re just needling Pyne. [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 5:58pm 11/23/22
    - Barking up the wrong tree and going out on a limb? [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 6:35pm 11/23/22
      - Just a bunch of saps, right? [NT] - murph78 - 9:06pm 11/23/22
        That's a straw man argument [NT] - MarkHarman - 9:34pm 11/23/22
  - Should Pyne be gifted the job because the starting qb got hurt? - D2 - 4:29pm 11/23/22
    - Correction. Pyne has excelled at leading the team to an 8-1 record. That's all. Hard to argue that. - oldirish - 10:04pm 11/24/22
    - Funny, 19 passes weren’t batted down - WoodstockIrish - 6:37pm 11/23/22
    - You don’t win much with ordinary - WoodstockIrish - 6:36pm 11/23/22
      - The next game that ND wins because Pyne is the QB will be the first - D2 - 6:42pm 11/23/22
  - Pyne Has proven he’s a big-time team player I don’t think he cares [NT] - KWIRISH - 4:11pm 11/23/22
    - He's getting to live his dream these last 9 weeks and good for him. He shouldn't be a starter again - tky21 - 8:14pm 11/23/22
  - I’d like to see both play. Will also be interesting to see how Pyne does without Mayer. [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 3:50pm 11/23/22
  - Why? Buchner is our starting QB. Why wouldn’t he play if healthy?? [NT] - tky21 - 2:18pm 11/23/22
    - Because when he did play (include last year pls), he was not very good. [NT] - NDQuebec - 7:33am 11/24/22
      - Last year he's a true freshman who hadn't played in years. He's our starting QB. He should play. [NT] - tky21 - 11:09am 11/24/22
      - Thank you [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:42am 11/24/22
        Others have to intentionally not be looking at these facts. [NT] - oldirish - 8:51am 11/24/22
        If he gets healthy and plays in the bowl game, a lot of Pyne-lovers will be eating crow. [NT] - tky21 - 11:10am 11/24/22
        Please tell me what Crow? He's 8-1 and they've scored 40+ points in 5 straight games. The first time - oldirish - 10:11pm 11/24/22
  - Not at all. Makes bowl opponent have to prepare for so much more. - BaronVonZemo - 1:19pm 11/23/22
  - In all fairness to Pyne, he's had more of a chance to cement a starting job than Buchner. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 1:03pm 11/23/22
    - In all fairness. Buchner looked bad and we lost. Pyne has looked bad at times and we still won. The - oldirish - 8:54am 11/24/22
      - Buchner's far better. That's why he is our starting QB and Pyne is the backup even though he's older [NT] - tky21 - 10:08am 11/24/22
        Pyne's play has the coaches to actively start looking for a transfer QB midseason. Enough said. [NT] - tky21 - 10:09am 11/24/22
    - Correct. And the result is ND looking for a transfer so they won't have to go with Pyne next year if - tky21 - 8:16pm 11/23/22
  - Buchner did win the starting job, you think it's fair he loses it due to injury? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:57pm 11/23/22
    - A slap in the face would be making Buchner pay the price for shitty Oline play.... - NDavenue - 1:55pm 11/23/22
      - Agree. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:41pm 11/23/22
  - Why? He didn't say anything about TB starting, he said he might be able to play. - Irish_Demon - 12:48pm 11/23/22
    - Packages? We need him throwing the ball too. We might not be able to run 75% of the time and win. [NT] - tky21 - 6:24pm 11/24/22
    - Exactly. Pyne has been adequate at best. If he has - Frank L - 12:52pm 11/23/22
      - Let the bowl opponent have to prep for two different QBs. - ELP - 1:09pm 11/23/22
        There are two reasons why it made sense for Freeman to make that statement: - b2runn - 3:00pm 11/23/22
        Amir Carlisle (USC) and Alohi Gilman (Navy) - NDavenue - 3:57pm 11/23/22
        Re: Amir Carlisle (USC) and Alohi Gilman (Navy) - b2runn - 5:00pm 11/23/22
        True about Navy. The key is to target Frosh or Sophs. 3rd year students are a no go. - NDavenue - 5:12pm 11/23/22