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Re: Not just good, but great for ND, if true.

Author: Rocketman84 (1528 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)
Posted at 1:31 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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I've seen tons of him as my older brother was a former RB and coach on the staff at Wake. I know that people on this board are vastly overrating him because of his experience and numbers in that Wake "slow mesh" offense. He is a very good college player with limited upside. He actually DOESN'T have a strong arm but it's above average, The GOOD he is accurate on short (screen and swings) to medium (post corner) range throws. Best traits are on short routes putting the ball in position for YAC and those middle range seam throws. I love his fiery demanor too even though he has toned it down a bit since Soph year.

For the BAD, well undersized listed at 6'1 210 but is same height as me 6'0" and closer to 205 so he is in that Book mold. If flushed he tends to throw the ball up carelessly and without the great arm talent ball to drive the ball leads to INTs (25 last 2 years). OVERALL ACCURACY (59% for career) Deep throws will sink and come up short as he doesn't drive the ball and throws more of a looping ball. Oddly struggles to sense pressure despite having very good footwork and took alot of unnecessary sacks.

But i'm guessing people prefer Hartman since he has 1yr of eligibility over the better talent in Card because he has 3 to play 2. I can see him being in the Coan range for us as a QB with more mobility but certainly less accuracy.


Replies to: "Re: Not just good, but great for ND, if true."

  • Being reported that Hartman will transfer to ND - Indy24Irish - 11:56am 12/23/22 (24) [View All]
    • That would be great. - AlbanyIRISH - 1:57pm 12/23/22
    • Extremely good. But we need to wait & hope that this is true. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:24pm 12/23/22
    • Good kid. Remember him in QB1 Netflix show. Probably a taller Ian Book. A better Tommy Rees. [NT] - Karamello - 12:58pm 12/23/22
      • Re: Good kid. Remember him in QB1 Netflix show. Probably a taller Ian Book. A better Tommy Rees. - Rocketman84 - 1:43pm 12/23/22
      • Plus he's 23 years old and that maturity can really help plus only 1 year left (was at Wake for 5?) [NT] - Jerseymick - 1:26pm 12/23/22
    • It's great. I never thought ND would even be in the mix for him cuz of NIL. - NDQuebec - 12:56pm 12/23/22
    • If true, I think this is good. 1 yr of eligibility remaining so it doesn't mess with what they're - tky21 - 12:30pm 12/23/22
    • Not just good, but great for ND, if true. - Clem - 12:22pm 12/23/22
      • Re: Not just good, but great for ND, if true. - Rocketman84 - 1:31pm 12/23/22
        • May not have elite arm talent (no one has said he does), - Clem - 4:42pm 12/23/22
          • As I said above, not a cannon but can make all the throws..touch and accuracy on deep balls seems - Chrisb - 5:27pm 12/23/22
            • Re: As I said above, not a cannon but can make all the throws..touch and accuracy on deep balls seems - Rocketman84 - 6:54pm 12/23/22
        • Well, that was certainly underwhelming [NT] - ColeyO - 1:53pm 12/23/22
          • Re: Well, that was certainly underwhelming - Rocketman84 - 2:39pm 12/23/22
      • Don't know anything about him, at quick glance if you take away Louisville & NC St, stats are... - Chrisb - 12:45pm 12/23/22
        • Re: Don't know anything about him, at quick glance if you take away Louisville & NC St, stats are... - Rocketman84 - 1:32pm 12/23/22
        • Didn't see the Louisville game, but against NCST he got hammered all game - Clem - 12:59pm 12/23/22
    • High GPA [NT] - whatsamataU - 12:22pm 12/23/22
      • At a good school that we accept transfers from. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:24pm 12/23/22
    • Impressive numbers and obviously has some talent - NDNEIL - 12:12pm 12/23/22
      • He rode that run/pass option a long time and it was unique to the Wake offense. [NT] - jray - 12:13pm 12/23/22
        • Wait until you you see the "slow mesh" in action. It seems like it takes forever. [NT] - Irishize - 12:27pm 12/23/22
    • He's passed for over 13,000 yards at Wake. He's been there 5 years, thus qualifying for a pension. [NT] - Irishize - 12:02pm 12/23/22
      • Or tenure... [NT] - ripperduck - 12:53pm 12/23/22
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