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And a very weak arm

Author: ndunabomber (6419 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:49 pm on Dec 23, 2022
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Yes, I know about the throw he made in practice where he was on his knees and threw a 40 yard bomb.

That didn't translate to on-field arm strength. Opposing defenses knew that he couldn't throw a pass with respectable velocity more than 8-10 yards, and would squat in a short zone, rush three, and keep eight in coverage back in 2013. That crippled our offense, and to put it bluntly, the 4 losses we had (Michigan, Oklahoma, Pitt, Stanford) were all very winnable games.

Almost every time he tried to zing a pass in between 15-25 yards, it would get either knocked away by a defender, or our WR would lose a contested catch.

To his credit, he was easily the best QB we had when it came to making pass protection audibles, even if he did outsmart himself on too many occasions. He was also quite good at sliding around in the pocket to buy another 1-2 seconds.

Still, it's no secret that he was the limiting factor on that 2013 team. If Golson hadn't been foolish about his academics, and led that team, that could definitely have been an undefeated team.


Replies to: "And a very weak arm"

  • 74 TD's & 7,649 yds in 22/21 w/ 12.5 Int avg. 75.3 Qbr - DiscoRick - 7:17pm 12/23/22 (33) [View All]
    • He had to put up big numbers. They are 185th in rushing. [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:36pm 12/23/22
      • It'll be interesting to see him play with a great Oline and good HB's. - DiscoRick - 8:38pm 12/23/22
        • And a great offensive coordinator… [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:46pm 12/23/22
          • Check your sarcasm meters [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:50pm 12/23/22
            • That was my first guess but wasn't sure. Played it safe. [NT] - oldirish - 9:28pm 12/23/22
          • It'd be nice. But, that's betting on the come. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:47pm 12/23/22
          • guess he'll be waiting until the NFL for this? [NT] - oldirish - 8:47pm 12/23/22
    • Re: Great pick up - vern3000 - 8:02pm 12/23/22
      • You're right. Upgrade over Pyne...but.. ND needs more than that [NT] - Karamello - 8:12pm 12/23/22
      • Agreed. Best QB we've had since Claussen or Quinn. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:06pm 12/23/22
        • I like Hartman but he's more Book and Rees than Quinn or Clausen [NT] - Karamello - 8:11pm 12/23/22
          • Rees with mobility and an arm. Not sure about the QB smarts. Never watched him a lot. [NT] - oldirish - 8:48pm 12/23/22
            • Rees was a good QB, just slower than magma. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:54pm 12/23/22
              • And a very weak arm - ndunabomber - 9:49pm 12/23/22
          • That's fair. More Book than Rees I'd say. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:17pm 12/23/22
          • No where good as Book, similar to Rees [NT] - ColeyO - 8:15pm 12/23/22
            • yes. [NT] - oldirish - 8:48pm 12/23/22
    • lol. nice cherry pick. 107TD / 5 years = 21.4 per year. Can't believe I had to spell this out. - oldirish - 8:01pm 12/23/22
      • So you're thinking he'll revert to his 5 year average? Maybe. Seems unlikely. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:05pm 12/23/22
        • With handoff Tommy as the OC. He's not shown to be of the air-raid type. He threw the ball 35 times - oldirish - 9:16pm 12/23/22
          • He threw 35 times a game because they had the 185th ranked rushing attack - WoodstockIrish - 8:30am 12/24/22
          • Rees doesnt seem to trust inexperience. They threw a lot more with Coan. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:20pm 12/23/22
            • delete [NT] - oldirish - 9:27pm 12/23/22
            • Can't trust what you don't try. Rees only called good games when he felt the opponents where - oldirish - 9:26pm 12/23/22
              • Yep, it was totally frustrating to watch. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:35pm 12/23/22
    • Let’s hope he can overcome Tommy Rees and average at best WRs [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 7:56pm 12/23/22
      • WR group is hardly avg at best. Don't understand some of y'all. - Karamello - 8:23pm 12/23/22
        • The WR are used so poorly we have no idea what they are. That's what it feels like. [NT] - oldirish - 8:49pm 12/23/22
          • Yep, that's for sure. Lack of trust in the QB's I think was part of it. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:56pm 12/23/22
        • Please stop telling me what they did in high school - WoodstockIrish - 8:34pm 12/23/22
        • Last year they underperformed significantly. - DiscoRick - 8:30pm 12/23/22
      • That's the question. Rees is not impressive [NT] - DiscoRick - 7:58pm 12/23/22
    • 3421 yds 35TDs 11 Ints 75.3 qbr this year. [NT] - DiscoRick - 7:20pm 12/23/22
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