Re: Sam Hartman threw 3 picks in a losing effort this year to NC State

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Re: Sam Hartman threw 3 picks in a losing effort this year to NC State

Author: IrishOkie (243 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:25 pm on Jan 2, 2023

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I like Sam, But if that's his ceiling within the ACC, I think we can safely say that he won't be working any miracles in a Golden Helmet against Georgia or Alabama either. A year ago, I would have loved to have Hartman instead of Coan. Buchner has started 3 freakin' college games for God's sake. I don't even know what Hartman's overall record is, but I don't think he's ever won 10 games in a season over a 5 year career. IMHO he's just not worth the chance in regards to losing Buchner, Angelli, Minchey, or Carr.

Replies to: "Re: Sam Hartman threw 3 picks in a losing effort this year to NC State"

Be careful what you wish for in Sam Hartman, an INT machine - MarkHarman - 2:15pm 1/2/23 (39) [View All]
- INT rate very similar for Buchner and Hartman: 1 every 22 vs. 1 every 20 (rounded to nearest #) - MarkHarman - 11:26pm 1/2/23
  - Huh? Hartman career 1597 passes 41 ints. is 38.95 Buchner 116 and 8 is 14.74. Check it. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 3:29am 1/3/23
  - You better check again. Wherever you got those numbers are wrong. Are you making it up? [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 3:18am 1/3/23
- ND offered, it's his decision all the way. Is he stringing the Irish along like Moore did ? [NT] - ColeyO - 4:12pm 1/2/23
- If the end game is to compete with the Georgia and Alabama’s Buchner’s play - MuskyTommy - 3:29pm 1/2/23
  - Re: Sam Hartman threw 3 picks in a losing effort this year to NC State - IrishOkie - 4:25pm 1/2/23
- Hartman's RTG was 159.4 and Pyne's was 155.3 in 2022 - bobdrake - 3:29pm 1/2/23
  - No better comparison than common opponents.. - Chrisb - 4:36pm 1/2/23
    - Do you have the info regarding INTs with common opponents? [NT] - bobdrake - 6:08pm 1/2/23
      - Yes, it's listed there: 6 to 1 & 19 to 2 [NT] - Chrisb - 7:25pm 1/2/23
    - Chris, you've posted this a couple times. You're comparing Hartman to Pyne. Limited value at best - Irish_Demon - 4:57pm 1/2/23
      - Do you not see the post I replied to? [NT] - Chrisb - 5:36pm 1/2/23
- Hartman is a huge upgrade - franksboy - 3:05pm 1/2/23
  - Huge, and I don't understand those who think otherwise. [NT] - NDQuebec - 4:20pm 1/2/23
    - So just out of curiosity. With Hartman are you thinking 14, 13 ,12, 11, or 10 wins next season? - IrishOkie - 4:33pm 1/2/23
      - I'm thinking 10 or 11 during the regular season. - NDQuebec - 5:00pm 1/2/23
      - Starting at 10 it’s an upgrade over this year [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 4:48pm 1/2/23
- Last two years he averaged an int. for every 36 passes. Buchner int for every16 passes this year. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 3:01pm 1/2/23
  - I got Hartman 1 INT for every 21.9 passes; Buchner 1 INT for every 19.7 passes. [NT] - MarkHarman - 11:23pm 1/2/23
  - But he’s 6’1” [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 3:22pm 1/2/23
- Vs our four common opponents this year Hartman threw 19 TDs 2 Ints vs 6 TDs 1 Int.. - Chrisb - 2:47pm 1/2/23
- Uhm, you do know that Buchner threw 2 pick 6’s on - Frank L - 2:35pm 1/2/23
- Sam Hartman ranks among the leaders in every category. - ELP - 2:32pm 1/2/23
  - Including interceptions [NT] - MarkHarman - 11:24pm 1/2/23
- Buchner can't stay healthy. Backup plan if its not Hartman? Angeli not going to get a shot [NT] - goldenleprekan - 2:27pm 1/2/23
  - We have nothing behind Buchner. Less experience than pyne had to start year [NT] - ndphysics - 2:29pm 1/2/23
- Interceptions aren’t always a “bad” thing - NDNEIL - 2:25pm 1/2/23
  - Did Rees say that? [NT] - bobdrake - 3:37pm 1/2/23
    - I vaguely remember him saying that to Kelly - NDQuebec - 5:11pm 1/2/23
    - Maybe, but a lot of other coaches have - NDNEIL - 4:15pm 1/2/23
  - Wow [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 3:23pm 1/2/23
    - You disagree? [LINK] - NDNEIL - 4:14pm 1/2/23
- Wake is a nice little school with a gadget football team. [NT] - irishslovak - 2:24pm 1/2/23
- Buchner's dual threat ability is something that Hartman lacks. [NT] - Irishize - 2:22pm 1/2/23
  - Except it actually isn't...in fact if you look at the type of mobility - Chrisb - 3:09pm 1/2/23
- Buchner played 1 game behind a good o line. Hardly - ndphysics - 2:18pm 1/2/23
  - I hope it “downs works out” - WoodstockIrish - 4:34pm 1/2/23
    - Fat freaking fingers [NT] - ndphysics - 5:02pm 1/2/23
- I am not wishing for anything but Buchner to start next fall. [NT] - murph78 - 2:18pm 1/2/23