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Sorry I could not have given my input after the Bowl Game. Out of town in South

Author: THEISMANCARR (17221 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)
Posted at 10:21 pm on Jan 8, 2023
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Carolina but proudly wore my ND stuff and let a few people know we own the state of South Carolina.

For my two cents:
We should go with Buchner if it is an even tryout for the position with Sam Hartman. Buchner was tough as nails in the bowl game as measured by his willingness to stay in the pocket and absorb strong shots to the midsection and deliver the ball. His long pass to number 83 from a different window was absolutely superb. He was right on target to Lenzy also on the TD pass while getting planted. The interceptions for the first pick six was on a tipped ball, so I cannot fully blame him. The second interception he threw was him trying to make an athletic play and if he had Mayer it would have probably succeeded. The fact that he has the ability to even attempt that kind of play demonstrates physical ability way beyond Sam Hartman. The third interception was a bone head play call and for Tyler's part he should have looked for a bail out receiver from the backfield or tucked it and ran.

Sam Hartman has a problem with interceptions that no one speaks of without the ability to make big plays that Buchner has. IMO Buchner is truly just a short way from being a difference maker.

Also our line played pretty badly as far as pass protection and didn't even block the run well in the first half. Alt may be overrated, Lugg was pathetic and though both played horribly, especially on pass protection and Buchner was able to overcome this. And please put a lot of value on this, after the 100 yard pick six, Buchner absolutely sucked it up and led a superb drive to win the game. Not many QBs do that after what had happened.

All I want is that there is a fair competition for the starting job with the loser available to pick up the pieces if there is a problem during the game. I am a big fan of the potential of Buchner. As far as comparing him to Wimbush, Buchner has hit on many more tough passes than Wimbush ever did. I remember the 2017 TD pass to Chris Finke against Michigan and if Finke did not make an absolutely phenomenal grab between two defenders on the Wimbush throw, we probably would have lost that game.


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Replies to: "Sorry I could not have given my input after the Bowl Game. Out of town in South"

  • Sorry I could not have given my input after the Bowl Game. Out of town in South - THEISMANCARR - 10:21pm 1/8/23 (33) [View All]
    • Come On Man! - Chrisb - 8:14pm 1/9/23
      • You convinced me. Buchner has no chance of ever improving [NT] - MarkHarman - 8:17pm 1/9/23
        • Did I say that 12.0? - Chrisb - 8:23pm 1/9/23
    • Buch has 6 career TDs to 9 INTs. 4 or those INTs were pick sixes. - jabbadoody5 - 11:43am 1/9/23
      • Yes because he is the most spectacular athletically and a good enough passer when he is protected. - THEISMANCARR - 4:33pm 1/9/23
        • And to be clear, you're talking about Buchner, not Wimbush, right? [NT] - jabbadoody5 - 5:10pm 1/9/23
          • Yes, Buchner knows how to play like a QB when he has protection. Is that clear? [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 6:36pm 1/9/23
      • Of course we are Jabba - WoodstockIrish - 11:55am 1/9/23
        • Ok, that's factually just wrong - Chrisb - 8:35pm 1/9/23
        • And as usual you overdo what we say and try to run with it. He has a lot of potential and when - THEISMANCARR - 4:46pm 1/9/23
          • You legitimately think he is better than Hartman - WoodstockIrish - 5:52pm 1/9/23
            • I think it should be a fair competition with consideration given to Buchner's upside and - THEISMANCARR - 6:37pm 1/9/23
              • No that's not fair! In a fair competition there is no 'consideration' - Chrisb - 8:44pm 1/9/23
                • Fast twitch baby, fast twitch. It makes a big difference against good teams. But yes who wins it and - THEISMANCARR - 11:31pm 1/9/23
              • The only thing that matters is who can beat all 12 opponents next fall - WoodstockIrish - 7:58pm 1/9/23
                • Well you are right when you say the only thing that matters is who can beat all 12 opponents, so say - THEISMANCARR - 11:33pm 1/9/23
            • Delete. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 6:37pm 1/9/23
        • Buchner threw 3 TD’s *and* 2 pick 6’s - NDNEIL - 2:30pm 1/9/23
          • I like Buch. I don't want to spend the off-season comparing him to Hartman - jabbadoody5 - 2:42pm 1/9/23
            • Some of us are presenting arguments because of the plusses of Buchner rather than any minuses of - THEISMANCARR - 4:49pm 1/9/23
            • Good news, he’s probably gonna get it - NDNEIL - 4:05pm 1/9/23
              • ^^^this^^^ [NT] - Frank L - 10:04pm 1/9/23
    • Hartman is ready NOW and Buchner still needs time to get better. - FoolBear - 11:15am 1/9/23
      • You logically make sense in one way but the other position is with more live reps you improve. It's - THEISMANCARR - 4:52pm 1/9/23
    • Agree. No internet service down there yet? [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:56am 1/9/23
      • He was on Daufuskie Island... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:30am 1/9/23
        • That answers it. They shut off all communcations when one is discovered a Yankee... [NT] - whatsamataU - 12:17pm 1/9/23
    • Hartman doesn’t have a problem throwing TDs. - Hensou - 8:21am 1/9/23
    • I completely agree especially comment on TBs ability [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 11:08pm 1/8/23
    • There will be a fair competition, but I think everybody expects that Hartman will in it. - tky21 - 10:43pm 1/8/23
    • I completely agree - MarkHarman - 10:38pm 1/8/23
      • If Buchner beats Hartman, I think Freeman will play him. [NT] - tky21 - 10:46pm 1/8/23
        • As he should, or he shouldn't be coaching [NT] - ColeyO - 8:42am 1/9/23
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