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Davie was decent as a recruiter, Weis was one of the best

Author: ndunabomber (6414 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:07 pm on May 19, 2023
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Davie basically brought in the equivalent of enough 4-star talent to keep us in the top 25, even if he pissed away many excellent offensive talents (David Givens, Javin Hunter, Tony Fisher, the list goes on and on).

Willingham had one good year (2003), where he was able to ride the high of being named Coach of the Year for that freakishly lucky 2002 season, and was able to passively put together a good class. His same approach of "recruit by osmosis" in 2004 and 2005 generated the two worst classes of all time.

Weis brought in more 4 and 5 star talent than we had ever seen, but even these recruits weren't ready in time to offset the terrible 2004 and 2005 classes. His biggest flaw wasn't recruiting; it was trusting the wrong person to run the defense that caused every loss in 2009, thanks to that idiot Jon Tenuta. In retrospect, he should have kept Rick Minter until a truly excellent DC were available and willing to come. That alone would have flipped 2-3 losses in 2008, and at least 4 of those losses in 2009 (conceivably even all of them).


Replies to: "Davie was decent as a recruiter, Weis was one of the best"

  • It was time for a down cycle. - koreasam - 12:01pm 5/19/23 (20) [View All]
    • Freeman is turning the program around. Just look at the roster and you will see the transformation - tky21 - 10:58pm 5/20/23
      • Whether or not he stumbled? - WoodstockIrish - 8:12am 5/21/23
    • 10-2 w/a NY bowl win - Freeman good or bad? [NT] - LanceManion - 8:30am 5/20/23
      • It would be a significant improvement over the current trend in regard to games and records. [NT] - oldirish - 10:29pm 5/22/23
      • Acceptable, but nothing to extend a contract over. - Chrisb - 1:22pm 5/20/23
        • Acceptable record and end result w/Bowl win but guess it depends on how we got there. - Rocketman84 - 5:19pm 5/20/23
    • I’m imagining the sad person that you are in real life needing to assume the worst in order to not - BaronVonZemo - 11:34pm 5/19/23
    • Davie, Willingham & Weis did not connect and were horrible recruiters. - Curly1918 - 2:39pm 5/19/23
      • Would've loved to have Weis' offense to pair with a Davie led defense WOW!! [NT] - Rocketman84 - 9:37pm 5/19/23
      • Davie was decent as a recruiter, Weis was one of the best - ndunabomber - 4:07pm 5/19/23
        • Davie had those great Texas connects [NT] - Rocketman84 - 5:28pm 5/19/23
          • Yeah, his time with RC Slocum did prove valuable - ndunabomber - 6:31pm 5/19/23
            • Davie recruited Top 5 classes from '97-'99, Helluva defensive coach that hardly allowed 20ppg! But.. - Rocketman84 - 9:36pm 5/19/23
        • I think Weis's problem in recruiting was lack of balance and/or filling needs. - NDavenue - 5:04pm 5/19/23
          • I think if the transfer portal was available to Weiss, he may have had much better results. - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 9:00pm 5/19/23
            • More then likely a 'Chip, Defense needed depth and that '05 class depleted with the firing. - Rocketman84 - 9:27pm 5/19/23
          • His problem was the Defense in general, the Offense was dynamic! [NT] - Rocketman84 - 5:32pm 5/19/23
            • lol...is dynamic the new slang for tragically inconsistent? - Chrisb - 12:35pm 5/20/23
      • Weis, horrible recruiter?? I'd love to have 30 Top 100 guys over 5 years NOW! - Rocketman84 - 3:13pm 5/19/23
    • Re: It was time for a down cycle. - NDIrish1988 - 12:04pm 5/19/23
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