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One of the most ridiculous comments I've heard! MOST 5* players can't pass a basic Math test??

Author: Rocketman84 (1692 Posts - Joined: May 31, 2011)
Posted at 4:04 pm on May 23, 2023
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Well GPAs and Test scores are definitely not hard to find in this day and age and would show otherwise, ppl seem to think you need a 3.5 GPA and 1300 SAT to get into ND as an "athlete" as if their regular students and it's simply not true. I remember they posed the question 2 seasons ago about "How many of the nation’s top 100 players, in a given recruiting cycle, can Notre Dame reasonably pursue?" Tom Lemming said 60-70, Mike Denbrock 35-40! I think both were right with one being an admissions bar number and the later being based on "fit". Granted, I remember the stress on higher standards were put in motion after the '93 season when average scores were 1220 for regular students on their SAT's, and the Football team averaged 890. Fast forward to 2011 and it was 1300 for students and 1000 for Football players, basically 80-100 pt increase over close to a decade. I think NDs demand is that you at least just be "competitive" in the class room even as an "athlete" while regular students must be superior, I recall coming out of HS and them having an acceptance rate of around 18-20%.

Replies to: "One of the most ridiculous comments I've heard! MOST 5* players can't pass a basic Math test??"

  • Why all the bitching about Freeman? - koreasam - 6:52pm 5/22/23 (63) [View All]
    • It's usc trolls like you. [NT] - Hensou - 1:08pm 6/5/23
    • Re: Why all the bitching about Freeman? - primo - 3:20pm 5/23/23
      • USC will soon be a bona fide contender - NDQuebec - 4:53pm 5/23/23
        • Their defense still sucks. - AlbanyIRISH - 6:18am 5/24/23
          • Re: Their defense still sucks. - NDIrish1988 - 8:19am 5/24/23
            • You cannot refer to recruits as "dogshit". - Hensou - 1:05pm 6/5/23
        • I expect so. They have a good coach and no conscience when it comes to paying talent. They will - TakethetrainKnute - 7:31pm 5/23/23
          • In just one year - ndunabomber - 9:29pm 5/23/23
    • Fans complain about coaches. Lot of OSU fans want Day fired - NDNEIL - 10:08am 5/23/23
      • Who cares about a bunch of smoothbrains? - NDIrish1988 - 11:15am 5/23/23
    • Because people keep starting new threads to play the 'why so sad?' game. - Chrisb - 9:24am 5/23/23
    • fight on for usc, troll. [NT] - Hensou - 9:16am 5/23/23
    • The thinking was he would bring in more Blue Chip talent and be in contention with 5 stars - Rocketman84 - 11:06pm 5/22/23
      • That was fan chat thinking - D2 - 12:20pm 5/23/23
        • He was definitely hired to improve recruiting especially DEF, and also because he could relate [NT] - Rocketman84 - 5:18am 5/24/23
          • Re: He was definitely hired to improve recruiting especially DEF, and also because he could relate - NDIrish1988 - 8:21am 5/24/23
            • Whoooa😳😳 [NT] - Rocketman84 - 2:11am 5/26/23
        • TBD if it’s an upgrade at OC - NDIrish1988 - 11:00pm 5/23/23
        • TBD if it’s an upgrade at OC - NDIrish1988 - 11:00pm 5/23/23
      • Most 18 year old 5 stars don't seem terribly swayed by 4 for 40. - Curly1918 - 7:46am 5/23/23
        • Freeman understands it now but as a 5* LB we finished runner-up to tOSU [NT] - Rocketman84 - 6:27pm 5/23/23
      • Then they should’ve hired someone else [NT] - NDIrish1988 - 7:29am 5/23/23
    • It's a few tools [NT] - D2 - 8:09pm 5/22/23
    • We are going to be really good this Fall. Can’t wait. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:10pm 5/22/23
      • Define real good? 12-0, 11-1, 10-2, 9-3? - WoodstockIrish - 9:36pm 5/22/23
        • Innaccurate metric since there can be multiple other really good teams on sched, but 11-1 - BaronVonZemo - 3:56pm 5/23/23
      • Nailed it. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:29pm 5/22/23
      • There you go! [NT] - Frankx - 8:18pm 5/22/23
        • Name a realistic or fantasy ND HC who could bring in all this 5 star talent. - ELP - 7:38am 5/23/23
          • Elon Musk, with Jeff Bezos as OC and Warren Buffet as DC - BaronVonZemo - 3:59pm 5/23/23
            • As part of your NIL you could be paid AND have a rocket ship named after you… [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 8:20am 5/24/23
          • Urban Meyer, Tressel, Riley, Smart...The "tired" thinking of only Lou being able to is foolish [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:37pm 5/23/23
            • Times have changed, Jr [NT] - ColeyO - 6:42pm 5/23/23
              • Exactly! So get out of that mindset of thinking from the past 20-25 years Gramps! - Rocketman84 - 8:26pm 5/23/23
          • At ND? I CANT...Lou was a once in a lifetime dude. Location and academics especially in today's - Frankx - 11:40am 5/23/23
            • A theory that's been waaaay "far-fetched" [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:38pm 5/23/23
              • Says you. [NT] - Frankx - 7:02pm 5/23/23
                • Says a large part of the fan base since 2000! [NT] - Rocketman84 - 8:28pm 5/23/23
                  • Good for them. [NT] - Frankx - 8:37pm 5/23/23
                    • So you honestly think that of ALL the Top 25 programs just ND has this problem? [NT] - Rocketman84 - 8:41pm 5/23/23
                      • So honestly since you're being honest. Exactly where did I say that? Honestly? [NT] - Frankx - 9:41pm 5/23/23
                        • It's a question not a statement, hence the ? at the end. [NT] - Rocketman84 - 5:20am 5/24/23
                          • Hence the ?? Mark does not make it a question. You're inferring my thought. - Frankx - 11:53am 5/24/23
                            • Simply put, asking a question makes it a question [NT] - Rocketman84 - 12:28am 5/25/23
          • Re: Name a realistic or fantasy ND HC who could bring in all this 5 star talent. - NDIrish1988 - 11:05am 5/23/23
          • Re: Name a realistic or fantasy ND HC who could bring in all this 5 star talent. - coachd80 - 9:03am 5/23/23
            • One of the most ridiculous comments I've heard! MOST 5* players can't pass a basic Math test?? - Rocketman84 - 4:04pm 5/23/23
              • All true, except - ndunabomber - 11:03am 5/24/23
            • Funny how all the dumb 5 star football players are “from the south” - WoodstockIrish - 10:51am 5/23/23
              • Yep, from the South, NE and West Coast depending on the year I guess - Rocketman84 - 4:07pm 5/23/23
              • Re: Funny how all the dumb 5 star football players are “from the south” - coachd80 - 12:29pm 5/23/23
                • Re: Funny how all the dumb 5 star football players are “from the south” - WoodstockIrish - 2:26pm 5/23/23
              • Look at the public school rankings - NDIrish1988 - 11:02am 5/23/23
            • Bullshit - NDIrish1988 - 10:15am 5/23/23
              • 55-60% of the Top 100 guys can get in academically, then it's about fit! - Rocketman84 - 6:32pm 5/23/23
                • Academic restrictions aren’t irrelevant - NDIrish1988 - 7:34pm 5/23/23
                  • Agreed! Not irrelevant but now its a "crutch" the fan base has gotten used to spewing every other ye [LINK] - Rocketman84 - 8:36pm 5/23/23
                    • They have plenty of resources - NDIrish1988 - 10:06pm 5/23/23
                      • But if you can't maintain a 1.8 or 2.0 then college isn't right for you PERIOD! [NT] - Rocketman84 - 5:21am 5/24/23
            • Good Post. We are shopping down a different aisle [NT] - ColeyO - 9:17am 5/23/23
              • Different aisle is fine, just can't be the "clearance" section [NT] - Rocketman84 - 7:10pm 5/23/23
            • Re: Name a realistic or fantasy ND HC who could bring in all this 5 star talent. [NT] - coachd80 - 9:08am 5/23/23
              • There isn’t one but… - NDIrish1988 - 10:13am 5/23/23

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