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You say you understand the difference, but it sounds like you do not...

Author: Chrisb (16381 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:02 am on May 25, 2023
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NIL is intended to allow student athletes the right to profit from their popularity while enrolled in school which student athletes were previously prevented from earning money while in school.

What this looks like in general when done within the lines. Johnnie is the hotshot new player on the roster, and he (or an agent) markets himself to the local community (or nationally) if he's popular enough that national businesses would want to use him in commercials and such. He then cuts a deal with local Buick dealership, they put his pretty face on their billboard or in their commercials, THEY pay the player or provide him free loaners or whatever deal is worked out.

Notice "The School" is involved in no way.

What it looks like outside the lines. Recruit is offered by someone on the coaching staff, or a representative (for plausible deniability) a certain dollar amount to sign with their school. Even if said Buick dealership in Alabama calls recruit Johnnie in California and says hey we like you and we'll pay you 5 mil to sign with Bama. Did the Buick dealership pick Johnnie name from a hat? Random speed call? How did they know that Johnnie is the one Saban really wants? The School told them, that's how. The school says hey Mr Buick dealership we want this kid bad, we need you to go offer him 5 mil.

This is the school indirectly paying recruits to sign with them, it's not protected by NIL.

NIL is not intended to be used in recruiting AT ALL...it's to lift the restraints that previously prevented student athletes from making money while in school.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis

Replies to: "You say you understand the difference, but it sounds like you do not..."

  • NIL for Justin Scott - IdahoIrish - 1:17am 5/25/23 (45) [View All]
    • It’s pretty ridiculous, but not unexpected - NDWisconsin - 3:28pm 5/25/23
      • Well stated [NT] - ColeyO - 5:17pm 5/25/23
    • The Convicts pay more than the Catholics. Money talks and Justin listened. [NT] - Irishize - 8:53am 5/25/23
      • And they introduce them to the campus hotties. A kid from my area showed little interest in the - irishslovak - 10:36am 5/25/23
        • I'm sure he was bathed in South Beach labia on his Miami visit. [NT] - Chrisb - 12:41pm 5/25/23
          • The school wasn't Miami... [NT] - irishslovak - 1:47pm 5/25/23
            • Justin Scott? [NT] - Chrisb - 6:43pm 5/25/23
              • Justin Scott is from Chicago. The kid I'm talking about is from PA and it happened a while ago. [NT] - irishslovak - 10:59pm 5/25/23
                • lmao...I was talking about Scott, when I said Miami bathed him in labia - Chrisb - 11:51pm 5/25/23
                  • Should change hie name to "Justin Vagina". [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:09am 5/26/23
                    • Justin Time? [NT] - Irishize - 10:36am 5/26/23
                    • Do you think it would help him follow a basic line of conversation? - Chrisb - 9:30am 5/26/23
                      • Serious question... What is your connection to ND? Pizza lover from Fart Worth TX...... [NT] - irishslovak - 7:43pm 5/26/23
                  • My point was that there is a lot of really bad things going on in college football recruiting. UM is - irishslovak - 12:36am 5/26/23
                • He did not go to ND and he is a current NFL player... [NT] - irishslovak - 11:35pm 5/25/23
    • Jenkins and Swarbrick can't pay anyone. - NDavenue - 7:23am 5/25/23
      • Re: Jenkins and Swarbrick can't pay anyone. - IrishChristopher - 12:53am 5/27/23
      • Are any schools paying their players? - Curly1918 - 8:09am 5/25/23
        • Yes, by proxy. - jabbadoody5 - 11:44am 5/25/23
          • This ^^^ [NT] - Chrisb - 12:38pm 5/25/23
        • The universities can't pay the player directly. Other than that...there are virtually no rules... - TakethetrainKnute - 9:30am 5/25/23
        • Nope! University boosters do. Years ago ND got 2 years probation and loss of 4 - irishslovak - 8:41am 5/25/23
    • Yes, break the rules for a recruit...spoken like a true fan of Notre Dame - Chrisb - 1:55am 5/25/23
      • Notre Dame has chosen not to give NIL money to incoming - ndphysics - 6:02am 5/25/23
        • First of all, the SCHOOLS (i.e. Jenkins and Swarbrick) can't pay players. - NDavenue - 7:29am 5/25/23
          • The specific act of a business paying a recruit isn't illegal.. - Chrisb - 9:12am 5/25/23
            • Exactly! That's how it's SUPPOSED to be but the reality is alot of the 2nd paragraph is going on - Rocketman84 - 8:08pm 5/25/23
              • Does it rhyme with 'yes he sees'? [NT] - Chrisb - 8:51pm 5/25/23
                • Yaaaahtzee! [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:10pm 5/26/23
          • I agree with the school not paying them and understand the difference . But is giving NIL - ndphysics - 7:48am 5/25/23
            • You say you understand the difference, but it sounds like you do not... - Chrisb - 9:02am 5/25/23
              • Unfortunately we ALL know better, and it shows in recruiting! - Rocketman84 - 10:42am 5/25/23
                • Yup! If we aren't going to pay acquisition fees, then we need to win as big as possible right now. - Chrisb - 12:44pm 5/25/23
                  • 👏👏Now say it louder for the "Fans" in the back who couldn't hear you!! [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:11pm 5/26/23
              • what’s so funny about NIL is how few players actually rep a product or company in any way. What I’m - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:12am 5/25/23
                • Apparently everybody knows what's "really" going on but Ol' Notre Dame🤦 [NT] - Rocketman84 - 3:13pm 5/26/23
                • As long as it’s strictly between the student and the business for - ndphysics - 10:47am 5/25/23
                • I found the BYU deal interesting and, while nice, seems to point up abuses of NIL. - TakethetrainKnute - 10:35am 5/25/23
                  • IMO, the essence is the student athletes have the right to make whatever someone is willing to pay.. - Chrisb - 12:30pm 5/25/23
                    • In fact, there should be one for Alums and another for Subway Alums. Could be a friendly competition - Chrisb - 12:37pm 5/25/23
              • This is correct. "Outside the lines" is where it is operating in practice at the schools that have - TakethetrainKnute - 9:35am 5/25/23
              • Based on your explanation no incoming freshmen should - ndphysics - 9:26am 5/25/23
                • Not necessarily...an incoming Freshman totally could be receiving NIL - Chrisb - 10:01am 5/25/23
                  • Ok. I got it now. Lots of ways to cheat but ample ways - ndphysics - 10:51am 5/25/23
                    • Exactly, for conversation sake let's look at this angle.. - Chrisb - 11:51am 5/25/23
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