Who is offering the kid. Straight from Lemming's mouth. He said he doesn't see most of these guys. It's not that tough to pick out 5 Stars or 4 Stars that are faster or stronger than their competition. Once Kizer got an offer from ND a lot of schools went after him. It came down to Notre Dame & LSU. If a player was a 3 Star right after the season that's what he is. You can't move up or down without playing. All the recruiting services know the Irish have a large national fanbase so some players get overated. It shows up when they play in a major bowl. Not enough team speed. Watch the tapes. They don't lie.