Was at the Duke game - a few observations

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Was at the Duke game - a few observations

Author: NEPA Irish (926 Posts - Joined: Aug 24, 2009)

Posted at 6:21 pm on Oct 1, 2023

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* Met Coach Mike Elko's parents and aunt - nicest most humble people you can meet. They were very complimentary of ND and Marcus F.
* Duke fans very welcoming and respectful of ND fans
* ND looked very flat and uninspired even during pre-game warm-ups; no enthusiasm
* As usual ND fandom travels very well - I'd say the crowd was 40%+ ND
* OL had no push all night - Duke's blitz & stunt packages had them confused all night
* Said it before, will say it again, no way the ACC (refs) don't have it in for ND - calls in this game (w/the exception of Merriweather's push-off) were some of the worst I have ever in seen in 50 yrs. against ND
* ND receivers (w/exception of Mitchell Evans) get no separation whatsoever and any pass route and when they do and the ball is thrown their way, it was dropped
* During warm ups, PK Schrader was kicking 60 yd FGs, but game time apparently is a different story for him
* Lastly, and as usual, terrible tackling - noticed when in-person , the LBs & DBs have the worse tackling techniques (or lack thereof) I have ever seen. They do everything you're not suppose to do, they don't break down, drop their head down, leave their feet and go their knees. That won't be fixed anytime during this season. Need to do those drills during spring ball and fall camp.
* Overall - great experience and most importantly ND finally won a close one.

Replies to: "Was at the Duke game - a few observations"

Was at the Duke game - a few observations - NEPA Irish - 6:21pm 10/1/23 (38) [View All]
- How was campus, tailgating, and the Duke fans? Seems like a great atmosphere. [NT] - ELP - 10:02am 10/2/23
- The tackling is the biggest problem. Hallmark of the quality of a defense. Elko, Lea and Diaco - tky21 - 8:57pm 10/1/23
- The ND noise toward the end was noticeable on TV - that surprised me. [NT] - LanceManion - 6:59pm 10/1/23
- Has there been any actual published data on the referee situation - WoodstockIrish - 6:29pm 10/1/23
  - Oh yeah, they always publish data to deligitimize their officiating. - DiscoRick - 9:02pm 10/1/23
    - Oh don't mind woody...he's our resident anti-fan. - Chrisb - 10:31pm 10/1/23
      - Just saving you all from the constant whining - WoodstockIrish - 10:58pm 10/1/23
        Yes because no other fan base complains about bad calls [NT] - McIrish - 11:55pm 10/1/23
        Stop it, he's our anti-fan...we don't need to share him. [NT] - Chrisb - 11:57pm 10/1/23
        
        Some of it is whining, some of it is valid - Chrisb - 11:54pm 10/1/23
        Yes, I don’t agree with 100% of the calls but I don’t incessantly whine - WoodstockIrish - 7:12am 10/2/23
        You do, however, incessantly whine about other posters - Clem - 1:38pm 10/2/23
  - Many of ours were legit, but refs are hiding it by not calling other way-this game 16 for ND, 2forD - BaronVonZemo - 7:08pm 10/1/23
    - Agree with most of this but by rule, the targeting call was not egregious. - McIrish - 7:22pm 10/1/23
      - Here’s why it is egregious imo…. - BaronVonZemo - 10:06pm 10/1/23
        I don't believe anyone claimed they waived the rules to keep with the spirit of the rules. - McIrish - 12:01am 10/2/23
        Notre Dame has been the victim of the targeting rule far more than opponents. - iairishcheeks - 2:18am 10/2/23
        
        Sorry but when you are the one crying foul, you have to stick to complaints that are actually valid - Chrisb - 10:43pm 10/1/23
        You nailed the two obviously bad, potential game changers. I have no issue with the targeting - Frank L - 9:01am 10/2/23
  - Nope. Most of the penalty calls on us yesterday were legit. Think that the beef is with them - Frank L - 6:37pm 10/1/23
    - The two that were egregious: Bothelo and punt review [NT] - LanceManion - 7:03pm 10/1/23
      - The only thing that was egregious on Bothelo play, was him putting his head down like that.. - Chrisb - 10:52pm 10/1/23
      - And picking up the PI flag, and the penalty disparity when there were clearly uncalled holds on Duke [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:10pm 10/1/23
  - Bro, I was seated on the 5 yd. line were the punt should have been marked out of bounds - NEPA Irish - 6:35pm 10/1/23
    - You can't convince some people the sky is blue. Breath is wasted on them. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:07pm 10/1/23
    - On any of the egregious calls, did Marcus engage the refs, let alone work them? [NT] - LanceManion - 6:58pm 10/1/23
      - He ragged on one ref vs OUS for that horrendous non-call re: Flores - D2 - 7:40pm 10/1/23
- For all the criticism they get (a lot of it valid) this D doesn’t give up many points, 17 to OSU and - Frank L - 6:29pm 10/1/23
  - This reminds me of past teams with bend don’t break solid D but offensive woes [NT] - LanceManion - 7:00pm 10/1/23
  - I agree Frank, the D has played well enough that ND should be undefeated. The O still struggles to - jray - 6:32pm 10/1/23
    - That’s my thought. D has played well enough to be undefeated. Are there deficiencies, sure. - Frank L - 6:43pm 10/1/23
- The million dollar question. Is the lack of WR separation scheme/route designs or talent issue? - jray - 6:25pm 10/1/23
  - Scheme will help vs a zone defense. Against man, the receiver needs to beat the DB. - McIrish - 7:27pm 10/1/23
    - I’ve been saying they should put Tyree in motion just like Bama did with Devanta Smith. [NT] - jray - 10:20pm 10/1/23
  - Talent/speed….and our 2 best of 3 consistent targets that can get open were also out. Enter the TE O [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:10pm 10/1/23
  - I believe it's not so much "lack of talent", but lack of technique in beating press coverage. That - NEPA Irish - 6:30pm 10/1/23
    - For anyone not a freshman, shouldn’t this have been taught - ndphysics - 6:49pm 10/1/23
  - Or inexperience, or D’s with good secondary’s in the last 2 games? But that is certainly true. [NT] - Frank L - 6:30pm 10/1/23