Sorry but when you are the one crying foul, you have to stick to complaints that are actually valid

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Sorry but when you are the one crying foul, you have to stick to complaints that are actually valid

Author: Chrisb (16381 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:43 pm on Oct 1, 2023

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The review of the punt spot was bullshit from the jump..the pickup of PI flag is bad because they claim ball was uncatchable...the ball in the end landed pretty close to Merriweather, and if he's not interfered with there is no way of knowing if he comes back and catches making everyone say 'oh I didn't even think that was catchable. Picking up that flag is bullshit because that is the purpose of the rule.

The targeting was correct call, can't play the hardly called crap...show me another play in this game where a Duke player did the same. He dove at the ball carrier, intentionally put his head down and struck him with the top of his helmet. It's a penalty, end of story and it should be. And if we were coaching our defenders better we would be seeing better tackling and not seeing guys putting their head down.

"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis

Replies to: "Sorry but when you are the one crying foul, you have to stick to complaints that are actually valid"

Was at the Duke game - a few observations - NEPA Irish - 6:21pm 10/1/23 (38) [View All]
- How was campus, tailgating, and the Duke fans? Seems like a great atmosphere. [NT] - ELP - 10:02am 10/2/23
- The tackling is the biggest problem. Hallmark of the quality of a defense. Elko, Lea and Diaco - tky21 - 8:57pm 10/1/23
- The ND noise toward the end was noticeable on TV - that surprised me. [NT] - LanceManion - 6:59pm 10/1/23
- Has there been any actual published data on the referee situation - WoodstockIrish - 6:29pm 10/1/23
  - Oh yeah, they always publish data to deligitimize their officiating. - DiscoRick - 9:02pm 10/1/23
    - Oh don't mind woody...he's our resident anti-fan. - Chrisb - 10:31pm 10/1/23
      - Just saving you all from the constant whining - WoodstockIrish - 10:58pm 10/1/23
        Yes because no other fan base complains about bad calls [NT] - McIrish - 11:55pm 10/1/23
        Stop it, he's our anti-fan...we don't need to share him. [NT] - Chrisb - 11:57pm 10/1/23
        
        Some of it is whining, some of it is valid - Chrisb - 11:54pm 10/1/23
        Yes, I don’t agree with 100% of the calls but I don’t incessantly whine - WoodstockIrish - 7:12am 10/2/23
        You do, however, incessantly whine about other posters - Clem - 1:38pm 10/2/23
  - Many of ours were legit, but refs are hiding it by not calling other way-this game 16 for ND, 2forD - BaronVonZemo - 7:08pm 10/1/23
    - Agree with most of this but by rule, the targeting call was not egregious. - McIrish - 7:22pm 10/1/23
      - Here’s why it is egregious imo…. - BaronVonZemo - 10:06pm 10/1/23
        I don't believe anyone claimed they waived the rules to keep with the spirit of the rules. - McIrish - 12:01am 10/2/23
        Notre Dame has been the victim of the targeting rule far more than opponents. - iairishcheeks - 2:18am 10/2/23
        
        Sorry but when you are the one crying foul, you have to stick to complaints that are actually valid - Chrisb - 10:43pm 10/1/23
        You nailed the two obviously bad, potential game changers. I have no issue with the targeting - Frank L - 9:01am 10/2/23
  - Nope. Most of the penalty calls on us yesterday were legit. Think that the beef is with them - Frank L - 6:37pm 10/1/23
    - The two that were egregious: Bothelo and punt review [NT] - LanceManion - 7:03pm 10/1/23
      - The only thing that was egregious on Bothelo play, was him putting his head down like that.. - Chrisb - 10:52pm 10/1/23
      - And picking up the PI flag, and the penalty disparity when there were clearly uncalled holds on Duke [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:10pm 10/1/23
  - Bro, I was seated on the 5 yd. line were the punt should have been marked out of bounds - NEPA Irish - 6:35pm 10/1/23
    - You can't convince some people the sky is blue. Breath is wasted on them. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:07pm 10/1/23
    - On any of the egregious calls, did Marcus engage the refs, let alone work them? [NT] - LanceManion - 6:58pm 10/1/23
      - He ragged on one ref vs OUS for that horrendous non-call re: Flores - D2 - 7:40pm 10/1/23
- For all the criticism they get (a lot of it valid) this D doesn’t give up many points, 17 to OSU and - Frank L - 6:29pm 10/1/23
  - This reminds me of past teams with bend don’t break solid D but offensive woes [NT] - LanceManion - 7:00pm 10/1/23
  - I agree Frank, the D has played well enough that ND should be undefeated. The O still struggles to - jray - 6:32pm 10/1/23
    - That’s my thought. D has played well enough to be undefeated. Are there deficiencies, sure. - Frank L - 6:43pm 10/1/23
- The million dollar question. Is the lack of WR separation scheme/route designs or talent issue? - jray - 6:25pm 10/1/23
  - Scheme will help vs a zone defense. Against man, the receiver needs to beat the DB. - McIrish - 7:27pm 10/1/23
    - I’ve been saying they should put Tyree in motion just like Bama did with Devanta Smith. [NT] - jray - 10:20pm 10/1/23
  - Talent/speed….and our 2 best of 3 consistent targets that can get open were also out. Enter the TE O [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:10pm 10/1/23
  - I believe it's not so much "lack of talent", but lack of technique in beating press coverage. That - NEPA Irish - 6:30pm 10/1/23
    - For anyone not a freshman, shouldn’t this have been taught - ndphysics - 6:49pm 10/1/23
  - Or inexperience, or D’s with good secondary’s in the last 2 games? But that is certainly true. [NT] - Frank L - 6:30pm 10/1/23