In general no, but 2024 will say a lot if there’s progress and if the program is headed in the right

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In general no, but 2024 will say a lot if there’s progress and if the program is headed in the right

Author: jray (3324 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:02 pm on Dec 7, 2023

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direction. Coaching screwed the pooch more this year than the quality of players. At a minimum this team should have been 11-1 or undefeated if not for bad coaching. Recruiting is still doing well so I’ll be fair and see how 2024 goes.

Replies to: "In general no, but 2024 will say a lot if there’s progress and if the program is headed in the right"

Is the program where you thought it would be? - koreasam - 8:32pm 12/7/23 (30) [View All]
- Sun bowl 2010 sun bowl 2023 vs team with no coach - beefy78 - 1:27pm 12/8/23
- I expected a better record this year, but wr injuries and previous poor recruiting at the position - michiganirish - 8:52am 12/8/23
- Honestly, no. I think the offense isnt any better in 2 years. Hitching our - ndphysics - 8:49am 12/8/23
- In their third year at ND, Leahy, Ara, Devine and Holtz won the NC - bobdrake - 5:34am 12/8/23
- Yes troll. It scares you doesn’t it…..but we don’t cheat for the quick fix like your team. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:04am 12/8/23
  - Ever notice the responses from everyone else? - WoodstockIrish - 7:36am 12/8/23
    - I think you are referring to the same 4 or 5 posters that post all the time and talk definitively - michiganirish - 8:57am 12/8/23
      - 4-5? Just look at this thread. [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 10:55am 12/8/23
        4 - 5 that post all of the time, say the same thing over and over, and who are certain they know - michiganirish - 11:19am 12/8/23
        Exactly and thank you. Of which Woodstock is one. Go Irish. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:49am 12/8/23
- Yes, its where I thought it would be & that's not a good thing [NT] - IrishChristopher - 11:05pm 12/7/23
- No. At best it's neutral with the positive that we don't get absolutely embarrassed in big games but - oldirish - 10:58pm 12/7/23
  - Louisville… [NT] - whatsamataU - 12:27pm 12/8/23
    - "annual surprise game". FSU beat LVU with a 3rd string QB and we had "Sam Hartman"!!! - oldirish - 7:57am 12/10/23
  - “We”?! You are one of the other regular trolls. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:05am 12/8/23
    - I had to unignore you for this: Can you actually refute anything I said? I'd love to see a rebuttle. - oldirish - 7:41am 12/10/23
    - Not a thing he said was wrong. - WoodstockIrish - 7:43am 12/8/23
      - Yet it is you stalking me. - BaronVonZemo - 3:56pm 12/8/23
- In general no, but 2024 will say a lot if there’s progress and if the program is headed in the right - jray - 10:02pm 12/7/23
- Thought? Yes. Hoped? Not quite. Coaching quality is a disappointment. [NT] - LanceManion - 9:56pm 12/7/23
- I'm reserving judgment until after the '24 season...but I will say - NEPA Irish - 8:53pm 12/7/23
  - Absolutely not, the program is still outside of the Top 5 programs [NT] - Rocketman84 - 9:48pm 12/7/23
    - If you're someone who follows trajectories...Freeman was handed a Fiesta Bowl participant, - Chrisb - 8:14am 12/8/23
      - Exactly!! Portal QB 3yrs in a row, shaky OC & DL, underachieving LBs, WRs fagettaboutit!! - Rocketman84 - 12:00pm 12/8/23
- I care less about the actual record than I do how they are trending - GrandRapidsDomer - 8:37pm 12/7/23
  - You have to do better than trend which means you have to be at least 10-2 and hopefully 11-1, or - THEISMANCARR - 12:38am 12/8/23
    - Re: You have to do better than trend which means you have to be at least 10-2 and hopefully 11-1, or - GrandRapidsDomer - 3:50pm 12/8/23
    - If I recall in your exclusive rating system 3 losses or 10-3 is mediocre - WoodstockIrish - 10:58am 12/8/23
      - What did I say now that was different? I am only fairly happy with 10-2, very happy with 11-1 and - THEISMANCARR - 1:05am 12/9/23