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Is Marcus "too nice"?

Author: LanceManion (7957 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)
Posted at 7:37 am on Sep 9, 2024
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I tend to think Marcus' lack of fire as a coach is a significant part of the problem, but not the whole problem.  I agree that he is "too nice" in the sense that he wants to empower the players; he seems to desire a team-led resurgence; and he continues with that philosophy despite the fact that it has not worked. However, I don't think his teams have absorbed any standard of performance that he sets, and you can question whether he has a standard of performance given what he accepts, and as a result you get the failures that we've witnessed.

Separate and apart from that, I think he has significant coaching weaknesses. He has high rated recruiting classes, but there are key position deficiencies (e.g., DL, WR, punter). And he doesn't seem to understand game day coaching in any material respect. He defers entirely to his coordinators, doesn't interact with the players on the sidelines, and doesn't work the refs. It's made me question whether he's needed on the sidelines at all. I'd also add that his comments about Leonard basically being a game manager before the NIU game were both stupid and naive. That may be true, but you don't need to say it that way.

As an organization, having someone at the helm who is perceived as nice but who is not competent ultimately makes the institution look weak. That strategy may appeal to moms who want to send their kids to a nice place, but in terms of garnering respect in the area in which you compete, it's not going to put points on the board.


Link: Too nice or incapable of molding men?

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.

Replies to: "Is Marcus "too nice"?"

  • Is Marcus "too nice"? [LINK] - LanceManion - 7:37am 9/9/24 (20) [View All]
    • Brian Kelly wasn’t nice and where did that get us? - NDWisconsin - 9:19am 9/9/24
      • 5 ten win plus seasons. He wasn’t the guy but neither is Marcus. [NT] - LanceManion - 9:52am 9/9/24
        • Also a 4-8 one and losing just about every big game. [NT] - Frank L - 10:04am 9/9/24
    • Many of the fans have been 'too nice' in continuously supporting MF no matter what he does - bobdrake - 8:54am 9/9/24
    • Was concerned at the pick but hoped he would grow into the position. - TakethetrainKnute - 8:30am 9/9/24
      • Agree. ND seems to get it wrong in coaching hires a lot more than they get it right. - LanceManion - 8:43am 9/9/24
      • The malpractice you speak of is specific to hiring guys without prior HC experience.. - Chrisb - 8:42am 9/9/24
        • IMHO Marcus is a player's gentleman. He's really good at emotion & that hype thing. - ELP - 9:06am 9/9/24
          • Ayup. [NT] - Frank L - 10:41am 9/9/24
          • Sadly, I think this is the case as well [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:28am 9/9/24
        • Agree. Started with Faust...where ND exhibited the hubris to believe it could create a Rockne-type - TakethetrainKnute - 8:51am 9/9/24
          • It actually started with Terry Brennan, with whom they tried to do the same thing. He'd only coached - MAS - 9:05am 9/9/24
            • We've had plenty of disappointments with experienced coaches too. I get it though. I hear ya. [NT] - ELP - 9:08am 9/9/24
              • No we have not...that is a flat out lie. ty and Kelly have the worst two win % among - Chrisb - 9:16am 9/9/24
                • Stop being a childish wise ass.That's the only response you're getting. [NT] - ELP - 9:28am 9/9/24
                  • ELP...I apologize for what I said, it was over the line to say you lied, let's start over.. - Chrisb - 11:36am 9/9/24
                  • List the experienced HCs who bombed! - Chrisb - 10:16am 9/9/24
                    • Joe Kuharich was one. [NT] - Hensou - 10:43am 9/9/24
                      • Yeah I corrected myself above with apology..I missed a couple. [NT] - Chrisb - 11:45am 9/9/24
                    • Ty Willie should have had enough to succeed. He just sucked. [NT] - Frank L - 10:31am 9/9/24
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