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The most sobering aspect of this loss is the potential long term repurcussions

Author: Frankie V (7192 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 8:51 am on Sep 9, 2024
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I wasn't even super angry about this loss as it was happening (which is a bad sign) because, sadly, it was almost a validation of all of our worst fears from three years ago when we hired a first-time head coach. It was the first time during Freeman's tenure that I really thought that he just might never get over the hump at Notre Dame. And if he doesn't we are in for more mediocrity for years to come.

Unless this thing really goes off the rails, I don't see Notre Dame making a move this year. I think we'd have to go like 7-5 or 6-6 for a change to be considered by the University - no inside info there at all, just my assumption based on the situation. But let's say Notre Dame goes 9-4 again. If that happens, with this roster, I think we all will know how this eventually ends. And after Saturday, 9-4 or better is no longer a given.

So let's think about the disaster scenario for a minute. Let's say Notre Dame goes 9-4 or 8-5 and decides on one more year of Freeman. Recruiting for 2025 and 2026 will fall off a cliff. There'll be multiple decommits for next year and the class of 2026 that looked so promising is going to end up being ranked in high teens/low 20s. So by the time ND potentially makes a move, we're looking at maybe 2027 or 2028 until ND could seriously challenge again. And that's IF Notre Dame could lure an elite coach which we haven't really see the University be able to do in four of the last five head coaching searches. (TBF to Kelly he was considered the best coach available at the time).

Until Saturday, I didn't think that a disaster scenario was a possibility. After Saturday, sadly I think it's now a possibility. And that's what makes this loss more deflating than infuriating to me.


Frankie V
Webmaster/Writer UHND.com

Replies to: "The most sobering aspect of this loss is the potential long term repurcussions"

  • The most sobering aspect of this loss is the potential long term repurcussions - Frankie V - 8:51am 9/9/24 (21) [View All]
    • I wanted to wait for Fickell, but after Schwarbrick said he had no list we were in trouble [NT] - DonMiller - 10:38am 9/9/24
      • That was a lie...there were people who claim to be in the know - Chrisb - 12:57pm 9/9/24
    • Freeman has to perform a QB swap and hope it works - OklahomaIrishman - 10:15am 9/9/24
      • Freeman is like Dan Devine. He won’t change QB’s unless Leonard get’s hurt and forces the change… [NT] - Sjnd5359 - 3:31pm 9/9/24
      • The players see what is happening. [NT] - bobdrake - 10:40am 9/9/24
    • I wouldn’t hit the panic button yet. A&M is a much better team than NIU. - Frank L - 9:51am 9/9/24
      • Hopeful message Frank - ndinga - 11:10am 9/9/24
    • Even though he’s young and inexperienced as a coach I like Marcus. - irishfaninPA - 9:18am 9/9/24
    • Freeman was a gamble by short-timer Swarbrick at that time. - TakethetrainKnute - 9:12am 9/9/24
    • I think the biggest misnomer is that we need to hire an elite coach.. - Chrisb - 9:10am 9/9/24
      • Removing out of reach candidates and buzz names, do you have a top 3 today that you would hire? [NT] - oldirish - 9:20am 9/9/24
        • This response was meant for here. [NT] [LINK] - Chrisb - 3:38pm 9/9/24
        • That’s the problem…there should be no out of reach candidates. - ndinga - 11:14am 9/9/24
        • Isn’t that always the issue? [NT] - Frank L - 10:17am 9/9/24
          • When you have Kelly/Mark Richt, yes. When you have Freeman or Manny Diaz, there are better options. [NT] - oldirish - 11:52am 9/9/24
            • I don't have a list of candidates.. - Chrisb - 12:52pm 9/9/24
              • These are reasonable. I was just curious. I have no idea. [NT] - oldirish - 6:23pm 9/9/24
    • Even if ND goes 3-9 this year, I don’t see how ND can fire their 2nd Black coach after 3 years. [NT] - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 9:09am 9/9/24
      • Marcus is a good guy. So was Jerry Faust. But he’s paid to coach, and despite his goodness, he does - Sjnd5359 - 4:17pm 9/9/24
      • Likely true. ND also shot itself in the foot by not removing other coaches after 3 years... - TakethetrainKnute - 1:00pm 9/9/24
      • MF should be on the need to know basis. Let the coordinators coordinate. [NT] - ELP - 9:13am 9/9/24
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