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I think you have to discount history to a certain extent

Author: D2 (7657 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:10 am on Oct 11, 2024
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1. there is no history of a committee having to use judgement to pick 12 teams. We simply don't know how they are going to do it and where the key decision points.
2. There will be more "quality" games then there have in the past because of the new conference makeups probably putting a higher emphasis on SOS to pick those final one or two teams. Just because a team is ranked 10/11 doesn't mean thing this year.
3. Whether we like it or not the 500 lb. gorillas, the SEC/BIG, are going to be beating their chests to get as many of their teams in as possible. It probably isn't even questionable that there will be 3 SEC and BIG teams in.
4. There will be a ton of key games that will give the committee more decision reference points than in the past. So they will have to dig deeper into their decision points to make them.

It is hard to predict how the committee will look at a 11-1 ND with the possibility of having beating no playoff contenders much less playing any, versus several teams from the SEC'BIG with 9-3 records who have. Given that possibility, for example, I doubt any committee isn't going to swallow twice letting in 4 SEC teams instead of letting in ND with its mediocre schedule.

In short, not only do we need to ace the rest of the season, we need help and that would be in for the form of 2 out of the 3 of A & M/USC/Louisville are in the playoff o2 seriously considered for it. Beating Army and Navy is going to pale in comparison to beating any combination of PSU/Tenn/Missouri/ Michigan, etc that our prime competition is going to have on their resumes. We lose in any comparison to virtually any 3 loss team in the SEC/BIG. We have to hope the decision comes down to 2 ACC/Big 12 teams or ND and even then we are sitting on the wrong side of maybe.

In other words, the cookies have to crumble the right way for ND to get in. NIU just killed us!


Replies to: "I think you have to discount history to a certain extent"

  • Is it possible for us to win out and not get in? - cpirish - 10:26pm 10/9/24 (42) [View All]
    • No! If the irish win out they will be in the top 6. [NT] - brian irish - 10:53am 10/10/24
    • Is it possible for us to win out? - Zander - 10:39am 10/10/24
      • Thank you [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:09am 10/11/24
      • It's improbable. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:09am 10/10/24
      • Good question... - TakethetrainKnute - 10:41am 10/10/24
    • Very possible - D2 - 10:19am 10/10/24
      • Agreed. We don't have a schedule that holds water & doesn't provide any form of supporting argument [NT] - oldirish - 9:25pm 10/10/24
      • Thank you…an actual voice of reason [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 10:25am 10/10/24
    • Not after last weekend. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:38am 10/10/24
    • No! Those in front of have too many probable losses. [NT] - Curly1918 - 7:34am 10/10/24
    • Yes, our SOS may be an issue. It is still too soon to know. [NT] - bobdrake - 12:53am 10/10/24
    • IMO, more likely to get in at 10-2 then left out at 11-1. - iairishcheeks - 12:34am 10/10/24
      • Above my pay grade... See this team as out at 10-2 and in at 11-1... [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:40am 10/10/24
      • Huh? [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 7:47am 10/10/24
        • Just take a look at the pre-bowl rankings over the last few years. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 10:20am 10/10/24
          • I think you have to discount history to a certain extent - D2 - 10:10am 10/11/24
            • Well reasoned argument. - iairishcheeks - 11:12am 10/11/24
              • The other risk is ACC/BIg 12 getting two teams each - D2 - 2:32pm 10/11/24
                • This is the perfect storm this year - WoodstockIrish - 4:37pm 10/11/24
          • So you think 11-1 is a lock? - WoodstockIrish - 10:28am 10/10/24
            • That's two different questions: Do I think we'll finish 11-1, no. Do I think we're definitely in.. - Chrisb - 11:30am 10/10/24
              • Look at 2022, pre bowls, there were 2 undefeated teams and 2 one loss teams. - iairishcheeks - 10:03pm 10/10/24
                • I'm sure there's some point to this...I just don't know what it is. [NT] - Chrisb - 12:08am 10/11/24
                  • Here, tell me which 12 teams make the playoffs if it was '22 and their records. [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 12:44am 10/11/24
                    • I still don't understand what your point is or what '22 has to do with anything.. - Chrisb - 12:21pm 10/11/24
                      • I don't think any more words from me would help you understand. - iairishcheeks - 6:46pm 10/11/24
                        • I think we have a 50% chance of being in at 11-1 and a 10% chance at 10-2 - WoodstockIrish - 8:20am 10/12/24
                          • I think we are very much aligned in how we see the likelihood of us actually finishing 11-1, but.. - Chrisb - 2:33pm 10/12/24
                        • I'm sorry that you aren't expressing your point very well. Also.. - Chrisb - 7:44pm 10/11/24
                          • "But to those thinking we still have any shot at 10-2 I say "lol!"" [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:05pm 10/11/24
                            • I stand by that statement...but I didn't say we are 100% out at 10-2 - Chrisb - 12:06pm 10/12/24
                              • I think you're confusing cunt and cute, I don't think your schtick is cute at all. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:32pm 10/12/24
              • In at 11-1, thinking about being 10-2 hurts my head too much. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 6:52pm 10/10/24
            • Jaysus, a lock to be in the playoffs. Try to keep up. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:34am 10/10/24
        • Right! I think I might maybe have an idea what he means.. - Chrisb - 8:11am 10/10/24
          • Yep. It might help if he knew the difference between then and than [NT] - Irish_Demon - 8:45am 10/10/24
            • Must be nice to never have made a typo on your phone. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:21am 10/10/24
            • Yep. All the things. [NT] - Chrisb - 9:25am 10/10/24
    • Nah. [NT] - THEISMANCARR - 11:48pm 10/9/24
    • For certain, anything is possible.....but... - nddad98 - 11:38pm 10/9/24
    • No [NT] - Nigel Tufnel - 11:23pm 10/9/24
    • Doubtful at this point… [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 10:50pm 10/9/24
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